Jam packed blog today, Michael Mazzella’s latest, MichellefromNY has given us her thoughts on the Beverly Hills Housewives at Pandora’s wedding! But first, let’s talk about the Beverly Hills Reunion…
LynnNChicago Real Housewives of Beverly Hills – The Reunion Part II
“Back Off Oklahoma!” Brandi Glanville
Beautiful! No offense to anyone from Oklahoma, (Two words: Illinois Governors) Taylor went on and on about Brandi saying, “I will kill you” when I think everyone in that room 
and everyone watching knew that Brandi wasn’t about to whip out a pistol and shoot anyone. As Lisa sanely pointed out, it was a figure of speech and Brandi was defending her parenting skills, there are no rules when it comes to the kids. Attack a kid or the mom’s parenting skills and you’ll take what you get! Period.
Don’t these women realize how horrible they look when they gang up on someone and begin yelling at one person all at the same time? Maybe Kyle, Taylor and Adrienne don’t watch the other housewives shows but it’s pretty obvious who the mean girls are in this show. Brandi had the nerve to question Taylor? Someone call the politically correct police! Kyle says her standard line, “don’t judge unless you’ve walked in her shoes” and Adrienne stupidly says, “maybe she feels the same way about you!” Does Taylor really need these two women to defend her, Taylor did ok all by herself, “Eddie said you slashed his tires”. Brandi took the wind right out of her sails by saying, “yeah, I did!”
Taylor can certainly hold her own, she did just fine attacking Kim last season so I don’t see why everyone should tip-toe around her now, yes her husband is gone but she had left him and filed for divorce before that. I’m not saying she won’t grieve and that her daughter won’t miss her dad, clearly Taylor has been through a crisis but she will be alright, no need to coddle her.
Taylor got very defensive when it came to her book, as Brandi pointed out she wrote the book very quickly after the tragedy, Brandi said, “it’s been a hot minute”. As Taylor screamed that women are dying every day from domestic violence she made it seem as though her book will save all of those women. I admit I haven’t read it but does it really have that kind of power? This is Taylor’s stories of what happened to her, it’s not a life saving novel. Taylor says she didn’t wait to write the book (or rather have someone else write it for her) because she didn’t want anymore women to suffer as she had. Will her book stop men from beating their wives? Will her book make women leave their abusive husbands? If it can do all of that, more power to her!
Watching the line of questioning about the huge change in Camille Grammer was completely unbelievable after having seen Camille on Twitter last week. If she hadn’t gone off on so many viewers last week, I would have agreed that Camille has changed for the better and she’s certainly a better person away from Kelsey Grammer. Andy finally got her to admit that she made a conscious effort to change on camera, she stopped making out with kissing her married male friends. There was much more than that, Camille admitted to hiding in the bathroom during confrontations (twice) so that she wouldn’t be involved on camera. That is absolutely a conscious effort to try to improve her reputation. I’m all for improving and becoming a kinder, gentler Camille but hiding in the bathroom to stay off camera during these arguments? Was this a suggestion from a PR manager? Is it sinister and manipulative? A little bit..yes!
Adrienne was barely there except to look ridiculous one more time. She has insulted Lisa 
over and over to the point where you have to wonder if someone is paying her to do it. Tonight she actually said that Lisa only befriended Brandi so that Brandi would be nice to Lisa and not say bad things about her. Is she kidding? Lisa didn’t like Brandi at all in the beginning, most likely due to the Cedric connection and as Lisa explained she got to know Brandi better in Hawaii and the two hit it off. Adrienne was being really mean by saying that and it only made her look silly and petty….again!
Kyle Richards lost a fair amount of fans after “game night” aired. While she did take responsibility for being a mean girl that night she completely threw her sister under the bus for hiding Brandi’s crutches. Yes, Kim did the hiding but as Brandi pointed out, Kyle knew she had hidden them yet remained silent and even left the room leaving Dana to try to figure out what to do. We all know Dana had no clue what to do, she obviously wanted Brandi to leave, Brandi certainly wanted to leave but was stuck there with no one to support her and no crutches to leave with.
Even if we let Kyle off the hook for hiding the crutches, we have to wonder about her excuse for behaving the way that she did. Kyle tells us that she was still on edge anytime she was around her sister so she went along with all of the Brandi bashing that Kim started. Kyle did have the power to make it better that night, she certainly could have told Kim to stop being mean to Brandi, whom she didn’t even know. Kyle could have welcomed Brandi to their team and tried to make it better, instead she jumped on the mean girl bandwagon with her sister.
That wasn’t the first time that Kyle didn’t do the right thing, the first time all of the ladies filmed with Brandi they sat in a corner as if they were in Jr. High School and made fun of Brandi laughing hysterically at their own stupid jokes. You have to give Brandi credit for coming back for more time and again, she never turned down an invitation to get together with these women regardless of how poorly they treated her.
From the moment Brandi took a seat on the couch the entire feel and mood of the reunion shifted and things came out that we didn’t see on screen. Invitations to parties, text messages and phone calls were revealed and it wasn’t always pretty. Apparently Brandi made a mistake sending a text that was meant for someone else, sending it to Kyle. The text called Kyle a C U Next Tuesday…oops! That certainly could have been what put a rift between the two women again after having made peace earlier.
Andy seems to be infatuated with Brandi, as these things were discussed, Andy would turn to Brandi with a big grin on his face, “did you really do that?” He did it at least twice, once after Brandi admitted to slashing Eddie’s tires then again discussing the offending text to Kyle. He seems almost impressed that Brandi mis-behaves and then openly admits the things she does. This is brand new to him, he’s used to Housewives lying and trying to defend their bad behavior. Brandi just lays it all out there and takes the heat, it is refreshing.
I have to give Andy credit, he’s doing a pretty good job of not letting the Beverly Hills Housewives off the hook, he has been asking follow up questions and is asking the questions we want answers to, nice job Cohen!
One more to go, what do you all think of what we’ve seen so far? I am not looking forward to the Kim interview, she is clearly lying about being in rehab only for alcohol abuse. I 
certainly think it’s more than that but it’s her business. We’ve already seen her reaction and response to her attacks on Brandi Glanville, she takes very little responsibility as she tells Andy she only owes an apology for hiding her crutches. What about loudly saying, “I don’t like her” and “I don’t want her on my team” without giving Brandi the benefit of the doubt and not even knowing the woman? What about the lecture at the White Party that Kim gave to Brandi? Kim doesn’t seem to want to own up to her mistakes and apologize when she’s wrong. I’m not really interested in hearing her lie to Andy for 20 minutes. Isn’t part of the 12-step program and recovery all about making amends for your mistakes? It’s not going to work unless Kim takes a good hard look at herself.
I found it interesting that Kyle openly admits that Kim isn’t interested in filming and doesn’t really want to be on the show. Kyle basically said that she talked her into it, I wonder how Andy felt hearing that? Would he want to cast her for another season knowing that she doesn’t really want to be there, could it just be about that Bravo paycheck?
One more Reunion episode then we can say good-bye to the Beverly Hills Housewives for another season… they are scheduled to begin filming in March for Season three, Andy says there are no casting changes, we’ll see…
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On The Streets with Michael Mazzella
Typically, I would never give a maniacal mooch any attention, but in this case I unfortunately will. Many of you, I am sure, have read the latest interview given by that good for nothing loser Cedric Martinez. Obviously he dissed Lisa Vanderpump in the worst way and went on and one about how it was all a ploy to make him look funkitated, that is not what has pissed me off the most. What agitates me the most, and don’t get me wrong any attack on my queen ain’t cool, is the sheer arrogance that he displays. Does he not realize how rare it is to be afforded the opportunities the Lisa gave him? I may be over sensitive to this type of thing, but still it is totally unacceptable.
Trust me, I am not totally oblivious to what people like to say about me, I know of some of the rumors floating around. Here is the fact, everything I have, I have provided for myself. I have worked for every last cent to my name and earned my positions the old fashioned 
way, busting ass. Never have I been given a free ride, a little extra cash here and there, and by no means any financial assistants. I have been busting my bell tower hump since I was eleven years old, and if that isn’t enough, I have never once asked anyone for money…even when I thought I’d lost it all. I’m sorry to go on and on about that, but now do you see why that asshole Cedric’s comments burn me so bad? He hit the jackpot, literally, and pissed it all away with his piss poor elitist attitude.
When you are lucky to have someone in your life who is kind enough to help you financially, how could you dare feel like you are entitled to that? Forget about the lavish mansion, fancy cars, or exuberant lifestyle that Lisa provided for Cedric…not having to constantly stress over money is a luxury that is not to be taken for granted. Let me put it to you like this, besides my career goals, my dream is to be able to have a lovely place to live one day that I can call my home. It doesn’t have to be luxurious or over the top, no, I just want to be able to afford a nice place that has everything I need and a couple of chic decorations or two…something a little bigger then my 150 square foot apartment would also be lovely. Here’s the deal, I’m WORKING towards that, I don’t expect to be able to go out and buy an apartment in Soho tomorrow…but one day yes. Cedric was just handed that life without doing a damn thing and now he has the audacity to make it seem as though he deserved it? That is a slap in the face to all the people who wish they were lucky enough to not stress everyday over having enough money to make next month’s rent.
On another note, a lot of people don’t realize that Lisa Vanderpump actually works, and hard at that. If you go to Villa Blanca or Sur, she is not just sitting in the corner looking fab. She is on the go just like any other restaurant owner would be. She may live like a queen, but she works to pay those bills, and no one is justifying cutting her a check for looking pretty. Cedric also claims that Lisa so unjustly had him banned from the show, I say way to go Bravo for 86ing that wanna be. I’ve been involved in enough filming of Real Housewives of New York to know that the producers will accommodate the wishes of the cast.
I could go on and on about Cedric’s lies and manipulation, but I won’t. I will be perfectly honest with you, I would give anything for someone to just write me a check for $50,000 tomorrow, it would give me a sense of relief that I’ve never experienced before, but there are way more people in this world who could use that 50k more then I. If that trash-box can teach us one thing, it is that it is more important to work for what you have and pay it forward to people who are really in need. On that note, help out someone who has less then you tomorrow, even if it is just a few kind words. At the end of the day it is about the good that you did for others and not about the amount of Chanel handbags you have in your closet. If you are one of the few who can do both, I hate you…. JUST KIDDING!!!
Michael
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Tonight the Orange County Housewives return for their SEVENTH Season! Has it been that long since we’ve been watching Bravo’s Housewives? Yup!
Stop back tonight to chat during the show!
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Fashion Roundup by MichellefromNY
Real Housewives of Beverly Hills – The Wedding
Adrienne– Always tacky Adrienne doesn’t do much better in the evening wear department. This mermaid gown is in a tacky shade of moss green that is uber unflattering. And the shiny satin only serves to highlight every wrinkle in the fabric. The band under her boobs and at mid-thigh have these ugly flower appliques that are just not a pretty detail. I don’t understand you Adrienne, if you’re so rich get a real stylist already! You can do so much better!
Fashion Note: Watch out for details that look out of place on an outfit as that can sometimes read as tacky. Overdone is not a good thing when it comes to clothes.
Camille– This black strapless gown is pretty with an interestingly architectural train tied at the back. I like Camille in black, but as skinny as Camille is, you can see some unflattering bulges. This is why shine can easily be your enemy in photographs, especially when the material is super tight as it is here on Camille. But overall, the look is pretty, but definitely not her best look.
Fashion Note: Just because you are wearing black, does NOT mean its automatically flattering. Check fit and limit shiny areas to where you want to highlight your features, not where you want to hide them.
Kyle– I read somewhere that Kyle is wearing an Adrienne Papell here and it’s pretty. I like fuchsia on Kyle and the grecian column silhouette is very flattering on Kyle (and is typical of Kyle to wear as she’s very self-conscious of her midsection). The look is easy yet dressed up by combining flowing chiffon with a gold “necklace” top. I also like how she accessorized simply with mid-size plain gold hoops. This is definitely one of Kyle’s better looks.
Fashion Note: OC housewives take note–overly saturated clothes equals bad. Nice jewel tones like fuchsia is good and flattering. Know that.
Lisa– I wasn’t such a fan of Lisa’s look as pastel pink satin is definitely not my favorite. As you probably can tell, I don’t really like satin. Its 
just one of those fabrics that you need an incredible body to pull off–especially if its fitted–and its hard to be photographed in. I will acknowledge that it was a very “Lisa” dress so it works for her, but the color with the satin was just atrocious. She would have looked better with chiffon or lace in my opinion. I did love the asymmetric peek of diamonds on the left bust and half of her waist. It brought interest and a perfect shot of glam to her look that again, made it work for her. Her accessories were my favorite, especially that tiara. It wasn’t too ostentatious and it looked more like a fancy headband than anything else so it was pretty not tacky.
Fashion Note: Asymmetric swaths of fabric at the waist flatters and helps make you look smaller than you actually are.
Love it Michelle! Thanks for the great fashion round up! And now another helpful fashion tip from Michelle…
Another big trend right now is lace. Lace is extremely feminine and although it’s a very old fabric, it feels modern today. For those of you who don’t like your arms, wearing a cocktail dress with lace long sleeves covers your arms in a flattering, pretty, and sexy way. Also, designers have started incorporating lace in their accessories like handbags which is a easy way to add lace without going lace head-to-toe.
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Until Next Time….
Still in shock over part two. Funny how Kyle can’t defend Lisa, but had no problem being Taylor’s mouthpiece over and over.
I heard that! Kyle chiming in with Taylor about Russell….PLEASE
I’m so over Kyle. I’m tired of these “funny” one-liners that she keeps throwing at Brandi. She thinks they’re cute and they’re not. And stop doing that weird lip-lick thing KYLE! It’s creepy.
After reading the fashion blog I realized, Kyle was wearing pink to the wedding – that’s LISA’S color. Even Camille said she didn’t want to wear pink to the wedding because it’s Lisa’s thing. Hmmmm…
PS… Brandi is freaking amazing.
Agreed.
(P.S. When I read your line about the lipstick being creepy, my brain read it in KKB’s voice! Get that whackadoodle out of my head!!)
Yikes!
haha, every time I type “creepy” I’m saying it (in my head) in Kelly’s voice.
And if Taylor is really writing this book to help other women, (and not just to benefit from Russell’s death), then why doesn’t she have the proceeds go to charity or some women’s shelter? I bet every penny goes right into her greedy little pocket.
LizzieLou,
She “said” she’s been involved w/her DV charity for years. If she was writing the book to help others she would’ve written it way before Russell’s death. I don’t have a problem w/her making money on the subject but to me it’s all about what Russell did according to her. Do you think she would’ve written the book if he didn’t die?
If Russell were alive, I don’t think there’d be a book. Russell could sue Taylor for wrting lies if he were alive. This book is what Russell did according to Taylor. Doesn’t mean it’s the truth. We will never know Russell’s side. Even Taylor’s own castmates think she’s a liar.
Yes, pink was a typical obnoxious choice by Kyle. Only Kyle’s wishes matter in Kyle’s world, other people’s needs, thoughts and desires just don’t exist.
And while that dress was among Kyle’s better looks, why is she hunkering down in that photo??? She’s finally dressed decently, can’t she at least stand up straight so a decent photo can be taken???
denying she was in on the hidden crutches – she could put a stop to it in a hot second but she didn’t – she was nasty that day, and her failure to recognize or apologize for it now, shows she just as nasty now.
Also, Kyle’s explaining for Taylor that Taylor couldn’t report the abuse to the police because it would jeopardize his ability to make a living, and that just wouldn’t do because Taylor has a kid to support. ENABLE MUCH!?
It makes perfect sense. The kid needs clothes, food, and the BH lifestyle. The kid does not need a safe place to live where, coincidently, her mom isn’t getting beaten regularly. Priorities!
Exactly! Welcome to Kylogic 101: “whatever I do is justifiable and legit.” Not only that, any one who questions it is a hater and a jerk.
Taylor is such a great role model for women suffering from domestic violence – do not leave your abusive husband even if you have a small child, because who else is going to pay the bills. Ever heard of getting a job Taylor?
Mmm hmm.
Kyle sure came off her pedestal with a thud last night. I thought she was awful to Brandi. She was trying to so hard to bring her down, and it didn’t work. I also thought Kyle’s reasoning to bring her sister on the show was disgusting. Knowing she had a mental illness, she wanted her on the show because maybe it would help her. Come on, when has reality tv helped anyone with a mental illness?????
One more annoying Kyle behavior I have noticed: she doesn’t actually laugh. Instead, she just says the words “HA HA HA HA HA!” Kind of barks them out, really. But it’s not laughing, it’s saying words. Watch for it. Once you notice it, it’s kind of creepy.
Great catch…now I have to re-watch because that is just crazy. I believe it. But its so weird.
re watching this morning….ha ha ha…. flipping me out now……didn’t notice before… creepy…ha. ha. ha.
sparkle I have to watch both.
Tanuki, Kyle has a selfish fake laugh. I noticed it last season. It is very condescending, and sounds like something her mother taught her. I think her mother taught her how to lie and not own her own behavior too. Kyle is a predator that can not be trusted. Befriend at one’s own risk. IMO.
ITA. Kyle is a major liar, and a bully. The way she treated her sister all last season looks so much worse after S2. She really iced out Kim.
I honestly think Kyle wearing Pink and Mauricio not wearing a Tux (when they knew this was a black tie event) was their way of telling Lisa “f u” without saying it.
Not only that, Kyle says in the front cover of her book she is “practically royalty” in BH. Why doesn’t he own a tux, as he claimed? If you lived there, and especially if you were “royalty” there, wouldn’t your hubs own his own tux? My husband does, and we very rarely (as in, once every few years or so) go to black-tie events. I’m sure they think they think they are above renting one, so what gives. Can you say, “posers”?
TanukiLady I was thinking that exact same thing. He owns his own real estate company & I thought in Cali, especially BevHills real estate companies throw parties so why doesn’t he have a tux? And the Hilton’s always throw something big that is black tie worthy.
Notice how Kyle and Mauricio covered each others asses with their choice of clothing? Their segment was Kyle chastising M about not having a Tux, yet, she tells us how she shops for him but he doesn’t know how to put the clothes together into a cohesive look. I believe it was the cinco de mayo episode, brown belt/black shoes crisis.
Then Kyle parades 3 choices of dress and he goes with the pink one.
Looks like Mauricio is as immature as his wife…
I completely agree with you. Passive aggressive move on Kyle’s part.
Brandi is amazing. She was so composed during these little catfights! Like when Taylor attacked with accusing her of slashing her ex’s tires, Brandi responded, “yes, I did.” Taylor smugly says, “I rest my case” and Brandi retorts, “what IS your case?!” Zing! Nice comeback. Brandi had a lot of poise, she can really hold her own in this pit of vipers.
(And furthermore, Brandi’s pretty justified, her husband cheated on her AND publicly humiliated her – he’s lucky that’s all she slashed! You know it used to be a defense to murder your wife if you were enraged by cheating. This “crime” is far lower grade, and as Brandi pointed out, she owned those tires, too, not just dirtbag Eddie.)
Yes. Lorenna Bobbitt. Haha. I remember when that happened here.
There is a medication that has a side effect of “lip smacking”…Haloperidol? My sister’s MIL was on it.
Lynn, did you notice from Brandi to Adrianne…..QUESTION MARK!
Good morning all!
Just thought of another thing I found interesting. When they were discussing Brandi telling Lisa that Adrienne didn’t like her, Adrienne made no effort to deny it, she only told Brandi that it “wasn’t nice” for Brandi to tell Lisa. I guess I have to give her props for that smidgen of emotional honesty, but how she can say Brandi wasn’t nice for sharing it without acknowledging she wasn’t nice for gossiping about Lisa with her staff and faking kindness to Lisa is completely beyond me.
Jen you said it. I don’t understand Adrienne. She had me fooled.
Wondering if Adrienne ever said to the creepy cook and the sleazy squatter that it “wasn’t nice” to say mean or untrue things about Lisa??? IMO, it wasn’t Lisa’s feeling Adrienne was concerned about being hurt, it was more like, “OMG! What did Brandi tell Lisa that I (Adrienne) said about her!?”
Exactly! So in Adrienne’s book it’s ok for Bernie to spout off all this mean stuff, but Brandi can’t tell Lisa that Adrienne doesn’t like her?!?!? Double standard much?
Adrienne your motives are showing. You ask brandi why do you think Lisa is friends with you now. Well the real question is why did you bring Brandi onto the show. Maybe hoping that she would bring Cederic to some events and ruffle Lisa’s feathers. I think so. Brandi and Lisa have been hanging out since the show ended. Brandi says she hasnt seen or heard from you since it ended. Oh yes except for an invite to a party that hundreds were invited to. Caught.
Wow, last night’s part two reunion was very revealing. Lynn, I am only just getting started on your blog. I do have to say though, that I think when Taylor describes Russell, I think she is describing herself a little bit too. She knew about Russell’s dealings, and I think when she told us (Andy and the girls) about all of his shady dealings and the “briefcase,” they will stay way from her with a 10 foot pole. Do you realize that in Season 1, she was the first lady to indirectly threaten violence albeit it was simply a statement and no doubt she wouldn’t have done it. But she did say it. Glad that Brandi brought that reference out! She’s a master manipulator, and her little all knowing faces when trying to put Brandi down were also revealing and simply disgusting. Stay away from her ladies!!! No wonder Camille hid in the bathroom. Smart lady! Taylor is so manipulative, I think maybe Andy is onto something by letting her talk so much about Russell’s suicide, and her finances. She is bound to let something slip out! And go Brandi for being the one with balls for letting her have it!
What I don’t get with the briefcase is if it was found with Russell after he committed suicide wouldn’t the police have opened that briefcase to see what was inside? I would think they would need to make sure it was a suicide and everything would have been combed over. So I call BS on this one.
When my grandpa committed suicide, and even my grandmother who did with a note, we weren’t allowed to take anything out of the house until everything was cleared which took about a week, with the exception of necessities in the case of my grandpa so he could have underwear etc.
Maybe it’s a NY law thing, but it’s weird that this breifcase with a multitude of shady business dealings etc enclosed therein would be allowed out of police custody.
Generally, in a situation like Russell’s suicide, the house would’ve have been locked down as soon as the police arrived. This is done to prevent evidence from being disturbed, obviously. Until the police “release” the property, nothing can be taken out without their permission…and if something is taken out, it’s documented and it’s usually only allowed under special circumstances and when the item or items aren’t directly related to the crime scene. (i.e. if there were children in the house, clothing and necessities for them can be removed, etc.)
Police may have given the contents of the briefcase a glance through…but this was an obvious suicide, so the contents of the briefcase wouldn’t have been a concern to them. They aren’t there to determine WHY someone committed suicide, only that they did. So it’s not unlikely that they released the briefcase upon request.
But the police did not find this briefcase at the scene. The coroner’s report (which is online) does not mention the briefcase anywhere in the room, much less at his feet. If she does have the briefcase and if it was at the scene, she had to have removed it before the police arrived. And that is tampering with evidence. She should be expecting a knock on her door today. She’ll need to answer some questions.
Oh, sorry…wasn’t aware of that detail. Yes, if Taylor removed it before the cops got there, definitely a no-no. Stupid of her to admit that on national television, too.
Whether the cops will knock on her door or not-hard to say. The cause of death is established as suicide, mainly based on the autopsy report, and the investigation is closed. The lack of the briefcase doesn’t change the autopsy findings. They may slap her on the wrist for removing the briefcase…or they may figure they’ve got a gazillion other murders, real domestic violence situations, rapes, and other mayhem to deal with and let this spoiled, obnoxious grifter stew in the wake of her own lies.
Well when she’s deposed I’m sure the lawyers will be asking her many questions about what she said on the reunion cause you know they have someone watching it.
Would she be stupid enough to admit to tampering w/evidence on nat’l TV?
She did admit it on national television. If the official report doesn’t mention it, then it wasn’t there. So how did Taylor know about it, know where it was in relation to Russell’s body, and know what was in it?
It is what happens to people who change their story as they go along and cannot keep the facts and their lies straight.
I just can’t see how the briefcase could be a surprise to investigators. Andy asked the question, which means bravo knew about it ahead of time… Am I naive in thinking investigators had to know? It seems like Bravo/Andy would want to cover their asses and make sure they shared info w/law enforcement.. I dunno.
As Judge Judy says, “if it doesn’t make sense, it didn’t happen.” I think the briefcase at the scene is something she made up more recently.
Could be. A tidy little briefcase that proves she wasn’t involved w/anything…ya right.
coroners report is on the taylor page..
e-rizzle, so sorry to hear about the tragedies in your past.
In my grandma’s case she had MS and it was getting to the point where she couldn’t do anything on her own anymore and she was miserable, so we all understood.
As for my gramps, he had hepatitis from his holocaust tattoo and it was end stage. Part of me thinks he did it so he could be with my grandma again. Wherever they are, they’re happy. I know it.
((E)) that made me tear up a bit.
thank you for sharing this. it is completely understandable that they would choose to end their own suffering. peace to both of them, and to you and your family.
Oh e-rizzle. I think your probably right. They are happy. That’s what I like to believe when people pass on, that they are w/their loved ones doing what they loved.
I truly believe that my loved ones are together and happy.
@ E rizzle How horrific! I am so sorry!
yes it is ok for Taylor to say Brandi made threats to kill then when Brandi says something it is NOHB
Hello everyone. I’m so glad to be here today. I had a heck of a time trying to get on yesterday, it kept timing out.
Lynn,
I’m sorry I don’t want to bug you but I’m still being timed out w/each comment I post.
Me too
Ditto….I can refresh and get my replies thru, but there is still something wrong
same here
Is this still happening? Would someone either respond here or email me? Thanks!
LynnAHudson@gmail.com
That’s ok, I see it is still happening….it happened to me too! Thanks guys! I’ll send it to IT. xo
Yes it is Lynn. Almost every time I post I’m getting the error message and having to refresh to get my post through.
Oops, crossposted. Nevermind!
Taylor….honey… With your I’m not talking to you line….come on!!!! Somebody has been watching too many Rhony reunions! Remember where they are now!
I’m not talking to you Oklahoma…best comeback! I died! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
That is Taylor. To her, Brandi is a small fish. Taylor is only interested in people who can do something for her and Brandi kicked her out of the Malibu Wine Party so Taylor knows Brandi has her number. It makes Taylor very angry that Brandi can see right through her. I am also pretty sure that Brandi has tried to warn Lisa about Taylor but because Lisa has a very large ego, she is susceptible to false flattery. It’s a royalty thing. People always want to curry favor with a Queen, Taylor is no different then most climbers, she is just very obvious about her goals. Queen Lisa should be smarter about the company she keeps. Brandi can not be bother with anything false unless it is fun. Lisa is fun and Taylor is not. Just another predator in my book of nightmares. Taylor is afraid of Brandi, because Brandi walks in the light, and has little tolerance for darkness. Kyle , Taylor and Adrienne are all comfortable with dark energy, so is Andy. IMO.
Very good observation there about their energies, Princess. I do believe you are spot on.
RHBH is the franchise that tiptoes around the elephants in the room – Kim’s addictions and behavior, Taylor’s messy marriage and Kyle’s pretending to be Lisa’s friend when that is clearly not the case. The reason Brandi is so important to this group dynamic is because she is willing to own her own behavior and has no problem calling anyone else out on their agendas either.
It looks like the “Susan Sanders” style stuff is already starting on the Amazon book review. Two reviews so far, one really positive but the reaction to the review are good.
http://www.amazon.com/Hiding-from-Reality-ebook/dp/B0061Q5PFW/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1328624487&sr=1-1
Thanks for the link. First and only review made by that person. Definitely suspicious.
Yay Lynn! People commenting on the book are mentioning your blog!
Found this in one of the comments to one of the reviews, calling the book a pack of lies – this article says it is indeed a pack of lies:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/07/real-housewife-taylor-armstrong-tells-all-or-does-she.html
Good article. So this is Cary’s Diane Diamond reference last night.
My favorate quote rom the article:
“. [Taylor declined to reveal the name of this family to verify her account.]”
teehee
who is Cary? was that on WWHL? I haven’t watched last night’s yet, just DVR’ed it.
CarLy. sorry
This is why it is so hard to believe Taylor/Shana (maybe I should just start calling her Tayna;) ). She cannot get her stories straight. In one story she tells viewers she popped her jaw back in over the toilet, but in another she massages it back in in bed. It’s sooooo hard to believe when stories are not consistent.
That’s because they aren’t true. If she wants people to believe her stories, she should carry index cards containing her “facts” with her all the time.
As just Judy says, if you tell the truth you don’t need to have a good memory.
Everyone should log on to Amazon and say if all the info is “helpful” to them. Brownyeyedgirl is tearing it up over there!
wow, I am so glad they picked this up, they ask her some really hard questions, thank god someone finally has the balls. Good for Daily Beast! I have to commend Diane Dimond because it takes moral fortitude to sit there and press a supposedly ‘battered woman’ for answers like this, when the rest of the world is throwing softballs to her. And yet with Taylor, every time she talks, her lies just unravel, one after the other.
And I guess they have finally revealed the truth: he was leaving her. He had figured out she was double-crossing him, and she was planning to destroy his reputation. He might have gone along with the plan to sue one of the cast members for slander, only to figure out too late that Taylor was playing for keeps. He was probably in possession of some seriously damaging information about her, that would endanger her getting custody. I just wish he had had a little bit more faith, that the truth would eventually come out…assuming this really was a suicide.
“Asked how she could work with battered women for so long yet never pick up the phone and call 911 herself, she tells The Daily Beast, “When you are stuck in this cycle it is so hard to understand! As long as [daughter Kennedy] was happy I wanted to keep it all together for her.””
Her lies are so frustrating..Kennedy, happy? The poor kid seemed miserable every time she was filmed.
Sorry, posted this under the wrong thread (these multiple pages are messing me up)! This was in reference to the Daily Beast article about Taylor.
Well so far her average review is 1 1/2 stars. Ouch.
What? No photo’s in Shanna’s book? What happened to all the documentary photo’s “her friends” took that were suppose to shock us all?
So we WERE right all along and the photo of her eye was not after Russell allegedly punched she so hard it shattered her socket. She did not bruise from the punch. In what universe is that even possible? In the one where it never happened!
Anyone eating crow yet?
Not me!
I bruise from walking into a wall by accident, I can’t imagine a punch with such force so as to shatter an eye socket would leave no marks.
Hi E! I missed seeing you post these last couple of days
I didn’t recognize you with the new quilt!
I can’t get on during the weekends. Something about actually paying attention to what comes out of that guys mouth, the one I married!
LOL!
e-rizzle you are so true. I get bruises on my leg sometimes and have no idea why I got them. I had my hematologist test me for that. I couldn’t imagine being punched.
Maybe that’s just it, Powell. She has no blood.
HA!
Right. Haha Trudie.
Gotta say, Shana’s using the DV issue this way is really making me kind of sick, in the negative impact it will have on real victims of DV. It is hard enough for a victim to leave their abuser. Now, seeing Taylor’s claims put up to this scrutiny, which does seem justified in her case, will only scare real victims, and make it that much harder for them to leave. This is starting to really bother me.
Maybe people who really are in real DV situations never have to worry about lacking physical proof of being physically abused? That there are usually records but the victim has “explained” it using a cover story? Please tell me this will not make it harder for real victims.
I don’t know, TL. At first, yes, there was the “when women lie it makes it harder for real victim’s” aspect. But now, my reaction is that it has reached the level that it is so absurd and so ridiculous, that her claims cannot be apart of any serious conversation.
The fricking FBI and the DoJ investigated a wife because some husband asked them to. Issued reports! Now I can start laughing out loud.
Seriously, I looooooved that. Did you know the FBI and Dept of Justice are available for private hire like this??? Oh sure, you too can have the FBI and DOJ investigate people. Happens all the time. Not! I would like to see that binder, myself. Produce the binder Shana!
Don’t tell my kids. I have had the FBI keeping an eye on them for some time….
Mmm mmm Trudie.
I think – shshshshshhhhh, keep this quiet. Shana is really a spy. And Russell was a spy who figured out she was a counter spy. This is all part of their cover.
With Taylor/Shana there is a bit of truth that she expounds upon to make it a lie. There could have been a FBI file on her, BUT my guess it was on hers and Russell’s shady dealings. So technically it would be true….just not for the reason Shana is giving us.
I gotta agree – Russell has had shady dealing well before Taylor. But as his wife, she would be in any investigations once she started signing legal documents.
Honestly, that kind of thinking smacks of drug-induced delusion. Woman is cray-cray.
TanukiLady- you are so correct ! I (shamefully ) was a DV victim. I stayed for a while-with misguided hopes- of things maybe getting better, but we all know it never does! When I did leave, I had exactly nothing. No money to put a roof over our heads (I have a 16 year-old daughter who was not quite 11 when we left), no way to get an attorney, nothing! I couldn’t qualify for any type of aide for living/moving expenses or an attorney- nothing! I didn’t qualify because our income was too high, my ex is a securities broker making upwards of $250,000. He hid assets, closed accounts, cut off credit cards, etc. He hired himself a nasty, NASTY!, attorney (who happened to be a twice-divorced, bitter friend who hated his ex-wives and the S/S and C/S he had to pay them!) They pulled me into court at LEAST once a week. They even had me served-all the time- between 1 a.m. to 5 a.m. on a regular basis just to torment & frighten me. He even got sole custody (for a while!) of our daughter who did NOT want to be with or even see him. They convinced the judge that I was ‘alienating’ our daughter by accusing him of spousal abuse. When we separated (after an incident where he drove recklessly to frighten & intimidate us) he told her that she had better not tell anyone, esp the police & family court mediator, or he’d go to jail and we wouldn’t be ‘safe’ if he were in jail or that he’d be murdered in jail. He had her SO convinced, she never spoke up. To make a long story shorter, they convinced the judge that I was guilty of parental alienation & that I was mentally unstable because I insisted that my allegations were TRUE! He was only ordered to pay $324 a month in Spousal Support & I had zero custody! I should’ve had 100% custody and about $7700/mo Spousal & Child Support. Fast forward to now. I finally told my elderly, ailing parents. We now live with them, I help them all I can, I have 100% custody, he has FOUR HOURS A WEEK!, and I receive appropriate Spousal and Child Support! My point is, if you want to leave, you can! I did! I worked, hadn’t before because he forbade it!, I got by for more than three years on my own. I didn’t want to go to my parents due to their health, but when they were better, I did. I saw my daughter on the sly whenever I could. She would ask to spend the night and daytime hours when she was on vacation with friends. I knew the parents and they heard from their children who heard it from mine about what was going on, so they’d make SURE I saw her. Several even made sure to have her spend the night or weekend with them and invited me also so she and I spent as much time as possible together. I even got her a phone so she could call me- to this day, he doesn’t know anything about the visits or phone. If you want to leave, you can! I was up against a lot. My daughter suffered a lot too. But, in the end, it was the only choice I had. I always find myself infuriated when Taylor tells her tale of ‘woe’! In my opinion, she’s a huge liar! I do not believe she was abused. Perhaps verbally-there’s no excuse for that either!- but I seriously doubt she was ‘beaten’. I have three crushed discs and a fractured pelvis courtesy of my ex, if I could leave and get a job and come out the other side, it CAN be done! I have serious physical chronic issues- pain that will never go away, and there’s nothing that can be done to resolve my back issues. All the doc’s can do is ‘manage’ it.
PS: sorry for the long post! Thank you to those who read it!
I’m so sorry this happened to you susie
BessieB,
So at SUR’s opening Lisa asks about her eye. Was that just makeup to get sympathy?
I would have to check Diva’s timeline, but I would guess that if that was right after July 5, then she had a bruise from the lasik / eye surgury, or whatever the surgury was for. Taylor supposedly now says she did not get a bruise by Russell hitting her in the eye (after that is exaxtly what she was implying when she first released the photo of ther eye with the slight brusing, welling, and the on her forhead)
Not only did Taylor imply that when she released the photo but she implied that the night of the SUR opening when Lisa noticed it and asked her if that had been what it took to finally get her to leave Russell.
Right.
You’re right! I can’t believe this garbage, in the prologue to her book she’s still claiming Russell fractured her orbital socket…but it left no bruise? Excuse me, I seem to saying this a LOT in regards to her, but HUH???
It just getting so dumb, part of the reason they wait to do the surgery (other than most times the injury heals on it’s own) is to wait for the BRUISING and SWELLING to go down.
She’s is trying to have us beleive that it was so sever of a break that it required surgery- yet remarkably didn’t leave a bruise.
Not only was there no bruise…instead of being in bed or at home relaxing until the surgery, having her eye in a patch to keep it from roaming she is out and about…being photographed- with a bunch of EYE make up plastered on her face.
Really? Because if I busted my eye socket , the last thing I would be doing is sticking a make up brush in the crease and using eyeliner and what ever..
Dirty fn liar…
I really wanted to believe Taylor. I didn’t want to think she ws capable of telling such horrible lies about the father of her child.
But geez punched in the eye but no bruising? FBI and DOJ investigations? A mysterious briefcase containing unread documents?
I’m starting to get a whiff of what you’ve all been smelling.
…and it smells like BULLSHIT, no?
RabbleRouser, ITA with your whole post.
that photo has been used in the media a lot to back up her claims of abuse.
I am completely blown away there are no photos in the book. I am guessing the attorney said ‘no’, and she had no choice but to leave them out. I am also guessing the reason has to do with her MMR suit, and someone has told her she is digging her own grave. She is really fumbling…women like this who use sexuality almost exclusively to get by in the world (and victimhood with what female friends they do have) seem completely at a loss when they are taken out of that comfort zone, Kelly Bensimon is another good example of this. They just don’t know how to act.
For me the lack of photos makes it an open and shut case for me. She lied, she’s lying, and she will continue to lie. Only advice from an attorney would have prompted her to quit with passing off the plastic surgery photos as ‘domestic abuse’ injuries. Wasn’t there some Bravo assistant or something like that going on and on about the ‘disfiguring injuries’ Taylor had received? And then at some point, Russell injured another party, and this person used the exact same terminology, it was ‘disfiguring injuries’ or something similarly dramatic, they had to have ‘facial reconstruction’ or something…if she was sleeping with that mouthpiece, who was a ‘source’ for several gossip site stories, it might explain why she was getting so many comps for Bravo. It also might be the person who was posing as a Radar Online ‘reporter’ and telling Adrienne and Camille that Lisa was putting stories out there. Lisa saw right through Taylor from the beginning, and I think in Taylors’ book that is unforgiveable.
So when did she get KICKED by Kennedy ?? LOL another lie….
Different story; same “injury”.
i am sure attorneys put the ixnay on that…
I imagine that every doctor she has come in contact with whom she said treated her, because of law in California that mandates they report domestic abuse injuries or face losing their liscense, might be threatening legal action toward her, or she might have been told that this might be the case. She does not want the doctors to come forward and dispute her claims, so she was advised just not to include photos at all. She will probably say she was trying to ‘avoid sensationalism’ by leaving them out.
“Avoid sensationalism” – I could see her saying that.
I just read the Diane Dimond article. So now there are 2 different versions of the dislocated jaw stories? And she was photographed within a day or two of the jaw incident but there was no swelling? I’m no doctor but I don’t see how that’s possible.
Oh my goodness! 5 out of 5 stars! She has arrived! 1 good review! FAKE!
not for long, look again. Currently 1.5 stars – 11 reviews, 10 of them are 1-star. ruh-roh, this book thing’s not quite going as planned!
That’s what I saw.
Good morning, yay the blog seems to be loading faster for me today. Can’t believe OC starts tonight already… yikes.
Michael, great blog! I completely agree with your thoughts on Cedric’s insane sense of entitlement. You’re right, he’s an ungrateful POS and I’m so glad he’s not being filmed anymore.
Is it tonight? Did you see the preview? I’m not sure I want to see OC.
It is tonight. I am going to watch, since Heather seems to have some potential, but I don’t have high hopes. I didn’t watch last season of OC at all.
The whole briefcase talk….that seemed so rigged and rehearsed. I KNOW NOTHING….IM NOT A CROOK!
After watching this past season of RHOBH I can say I am done with this group. I love Lisa and Brandi but I can’t stick around with Taylor and Kyle in the mix. I truly, to the core of my soul, feel dirty after watching last night. If Kyle returns next season without Kim, who is she going to blame for her behavior? Taylor is TRASH. I understand making money to support your family but that is your daughter’s father, how about make money without trashing him in death? I love Lisa and I would hope that Lisa gets her own show because that’s the only way I will be watching her on my television.
Right NightLight. What is she going to tell Kennedy.
Maybe that the truth sometimes hurts as much as a lie. Kennedy is not going to have a normal happy childhood. She already seemed troubled before Russell’s death. I think she got the short end of the parent stick. IMO.
Random question: Is anyone else trying to check out Beverly Hills on Bravo’s site and getting the Shear Genius page instead? I’ve also tried to link to the RHOBH blogs from Adrienne and Kyle’s blogs and am getting nothing. I may be in need of a tin foil hat…but it seems awfully convenient.
Yes, I keep getting Shear Genius too.
I’m not getting Shear Genius, but I can’t get to the blogs either.
It’s fixed now. No blogs up, though….not even Pam’s.
Jen,
Why do you even try. That website is a joke. 5th graders could do better. Why do they maintain shows that are no longer on on the site?
Maybe it’s just, but I think Kyle’s dress at the wedding brought the fug. What is that thing on the top? Is it mesh? Is she trying out for Grecian Icecapades?
LMAO!!! Where have you been all my life, srsly I’m laughing so hard right now. Hows the bebe?
She’s good! Was up at 2am talking a fly off a shit wagon and seriously engaging her paci in some hardcore conversation, and then magically fell asleep 20 minutes before my alarm went off at 3:45. Demon spawn!
How are the girls?!
Aww lol sounds like a fun night! I’ve been there, my older daughter didn’t start sleeping thru the night until she was 14 months old.
They are good, though… older daughter’s at preschool so I’m home snuggling with the baby, I think she caught the cold I had the other day
I selfishly enjoy it a little because she’s soo independent even at 1.5 and so rarely wants to cuddle.
Enjoy the snuggles and hope she feels better soon!
I used to love when my kids were sick and we would snuggle all day.
I love how Kyle said Brandi didn’t speak to everyone about going after Lisa. Brandi basically said you’re right, I only spoke to one person. Adrienne, with her Malouf in Mouth Disease asked “Who?” Brandi calmly looked at her and simply said “You.”
No response.
No denial.
And basically no more words from Adrienne that night.
Enough said.
I’m also glad Lisa spoke up for Brandi, basically discussing what she had heard about Brandi’s behavior from Kyle versus what she saw on tv and how it didn’t fit. I’m glad she did.
The one scene from this season where I really felt sorry for Brandi was after she had already apolo9ized to Kyle and attempted to apologize to Kim. Kyle and Adrienne (who wasn’t at game night and had only heard Kyle and Dana’s version) badgered her to attempting to apologize to Kim again and accept complete responsibility for everything that went wrong on game night when we all knew it was partly her fault, but blame laid on Kim and Kyle as well.
I loved that, when Brandi said “You” and all Adrienne could do was gape and say “…that’s not nice!”
Loved how Lisa very carefully denied being Friends with Taylor by never saying that she wasn’t really friends but by reiterating how concerned she’d been for Taylor at the end of the Tea Party when she’d realized Taylor needed (her) help. Everyone else on the couches is saying they were surprised how fast the two became friends and missing that Lisa was always clear that her attention to Taylor was out of concern and kindness, never stating that they were now best buddies.
Brandi saying that Lisa wouldn’t listen to negative comments about the others when the two of them were talking was a charming thing to say because it was real and very revealing about Lisa compared to the mean girl couch “ladies”.
Everytime Taylor/Shana/whomever opens her mouth she proves herself to be a liar.
Better to keep your trap shut and thought a fool then open yer gob and remove all doubt.
Michael,
I couldn’t have said it any better. Amen.
Priorities. Can anyone find out what lip gloss/tint/lipstick Brandi was wearing at the reunion? Loved it. First time I’ve ever wanted to, “kiss a girl.”
I’m going to start reading all the comments about part 2 now. My favorite moment was Lisa’s reaction to Adrienne’s comment about the dog drinking from the glass. Lisa said she’d let Jackpot drink from a glass and then sneared at Adrienne with such a look of disgust.
I’ll try to find out, I loved it too!
“I had my doubts about Taylor Armtrong an her late husband for that matter. But now, after reading her memoir, it all makes perfect sense to me. She was an insecure girl from Oklahoma who constantly ran from her past because she was ashamed. She fell into an abusive relationship with a man that she loved, and went through the abuse cycle because of it. Her story is a tragedy, but most importantly a lesson of how she survived and other girls can do the same.
I couldn’t sleep so decided to have a late night read, and I’m very happy that I did. I hope Taylor’s journey leads her and Kennedy to a happy state of life, as they both deserve it.” (Amazon review)
A lesson of how she survived and other girls can do the same? Really? You, too, can get out of your abusive marriage, just sign up for a Bravo reality show? GMAFB.
Whew! For a second, I thought these were Your words (sorry about that).. This is a play right out of The Book of Zarin. Just like every other transparent play she’s made this season, all wrong.
LOL! Had ya worried there for a min eh?
Dunno why she’s following JZ’s playbook, we all saw how well that worked out for Jill….
Btw, Dana *still* hasn’t posted a blog. Color me shocked.
Was Dana even at the reunion?
That review reeks of Taylor. Same writing style and all.
She’ll be on the reunion, but only for a short time. Luckily.
Oh, and ITA re: the review. If it wasn’t written by Taylor, it was probably written by someone working for her.
I wonder how long it will take Taylor to start dating Slade Smiley.
You made me laugh…. good one!
Sounds like we have another Susan Sanders!
Julie Elliott,
Wow! Thks for that review of Taylor’s book. I don’t even need to read the Amazon review. I feel bad that women that have truly experienced DV have to say “please don’t speak for us” because it seems she’s unbelievable. I also feel bad for Kennedy, Russell’s sons & Russell’s family.
Yeah, Julie Elliot, thanks. I wanted to know what was in it, but not touch it.
“I wanted to know what was in it, but not touch it.” What a fabulous way of describing exactly how I feel!
Thanks for taking one for the team, Julie.
Good morning! Great blogs!! I agree with all of them.
I will NOT buy Taylor’s book, but I was curious to hear what stupid stuff will be in it. Thanks for the review, I’m not curious anymore.
Earning our way and our money is the only way I know how to have what I have, so I can’t understand how someone who got a life for free can turn around and hurt the people who gave it to him. Get a job and shut up.
I love how Brandi is not backing down and is growing the girls off balance. They don’t even know how to respond to her, but when they throw accusations at her, she is quick to reply and not get wounded. Lisa is doing Great also!!
Sorry not into OC, but I will read the blog.
Have a good day, and talk to you all later.
This may have been mentioned, but isnt Brandi a good friend of Kim Kardashian? I remember her in the early episodes of Keeping up with Kard, I think
Really? I don’t remember her, nor do I recall hearing anything about it. I’m not a big Kardashian fan, but watch occasionally for laughs. So I could be wrong, but I don’t think Brandi and Kim were ever friends.
A quick google search shows no connection other than they wear some of the same clothes.
Omg, you have the deer munching popcorn pic as your grav…bbc flashback haven’t been on there in a few months but that damn pic STILL makes me smile
I wish it was animated like the original is, but totally, that pic makes my day almost as much as Kristin Bell on Ellen talking about Sloths. HILARIOUS!
Yes, the animated version is much better but the still version still rocks
Maybe you’re confusing her w. Brittny Gastineau? I’m not familiar w. the 1st season of Kardashians so this is just a wild guess
Changed my gravatar again, sorry if I confuse anyone LOL.
Good morning, everyone!
Julie should post her book review on Amazon.
And speaking of Amazon, I noticed Lynn’s blog got some mention there.
Looks like there’s going to be a lot of traffic on that site today. Lol.
Can I just say that I freaking love Brandi!!!! OMG, that kind of honesty (good or bad) never comes thru from any of the housewives (well, Lisa too!). When she admitted to slashing Eddie’s tires, I was hysterical. Kyle is so afraid of being unliked….sorry. You need to own up to your behavior. Telling Brandi after the discussion of game night that I thought we were past this……no Kyle we are not!
Adrienne came off so bad it was laughable.
My only gripe is asking the ladies their favorite curse word…………please, out of 8+ hours of taping, this could of been cut!
I couldn’t believe how shocked they acted when Brandi admitted slashing Eddie’s tires. Seriously? After what he very publicly did to her, I find it hard to believe that they wouldn’t be cheering her on.
I know, right?
this lady right here is cheering her on! Go Brandi go!
Michael,
I need to comment on your blog before I lose my train of thought…then I’ll go back and read the rest. It’s so nice to see a young man who is working hard to achieve his dreams. It seems like so many of our youth today want everything handed to them on a silver platter, almost as though they are entitled. My husband and I married young and had to work hard for everything we have. We never once asked for a hand out. We may not be wealthy but we are comfortable with a beautiful home and lovely family. You will look back on these days and you will be thankful that you had to struggle for the success, that I have no doubt, you will have. You wouldn’t want to change a thing. It makes you grateful. My daughter, who is pre-law, insists on paying her own way even though we are more than capable of helping her. She is very proud and wants to say she did herself! I’m so proud of you and my daughter. It’s nice that there are still young people who are not afraid to put in the work in order to be successful. You will make a difference in the world!
ITA
ITA
wow that was unbelievably kind, thank you
I am so angry after watching last night’s reunion episode. One of the many infuriating things was the way Taylor tried to defend her writing her book so soon after Russell’s death. Does she seriously believe its going to save women’s lives? Wow, is she ever delusional. Does she really believe no one has ever written on the subject before or made a movie about it or aired a PSA on TV? And yet it is Taylor’s book which will finally come to the rescue of DV victims everywhere. Yeah, right.
And so what are DV victims supposed to glean from her tall tales of woe? That they should hypocritically volunteer for a DV non-profit and accept an award from them, all the while living a lie and allowing your child to suffer with you?
And Kyle defending Taylor’s choice to not report the alleged abuse because she needed Russell as a source of income? What is this, 1962?????!!!! Why didn’t Taylor take one if the many life rafts offered by her wealthy friends to help her get stabilized and then she could have — gasp! — gotten an effing JOB like so many other single mothers across the land. Just as Michael gets pissed at Cedric’s overblown and inappropriate sense of entitlement, I am pissed that Taylor acts as if that option is beneath her. Really Taylor? Really? I mean, your wealthy friends who offered those life rafts are business women, surely they could have helped you to find gainful employment so you could support yourself and your daughter. But no, it was far more important for you to maintain a Beverly Hills lifestyle than to teach your daughter how to stand up for herself. I think 1736 should demand Taylor return the award they gave her. Lord, how I wish I could hear Ramona’s take on all this.
And speaking of awards… and business women… didn’t Taylor receive an award (or was she nominated) by a women’s business organization at the luncheon to which she neglected to invite Lisa? If she is that damn good of a business woman then dammit she ought to be able to figure out how to earn a living on her own.
I am so SICK of Taylor’s phony life and all her lies.
So why don’t you tell us how you Really feel? Sorry, I don’t want to make light of what you are saying because I agree with it. If Lips McGee Really wanted to inform about DV, she Could have done a PSA. I’ll guarantee that it would have reached far more people than her book ever will. She spilled the beans last night as to what that book is Really about. Covering her ass. I Hope some of the lawyers involved in these law suits were watching the show. When she said she removed the briefcase, or rather Has the briefcase, she found next to RA, she gave her game away.
Lol! Yeah, I guess you could say I’m a little pissed. I feel like this is a safe place to let off such steam (thank you, Lynn!). And I agree with you, too, about the real purpose of her book. The business about the briefcase is a little confusing to me in that I would think the police would now take great interest in its existence and that it’s something Taylor says was with Russell when he died. Did she slip by mentioning it?
Best part of the reunion part 2: Brandi!
She is very calculated and rehearsed in her responses to questions. You can almost see the switch turn on when it’s her time to answer (Today Show diatribe about RA’s Sister). I don’t think she let Anything slip but is hoping that will add to the credence of ‘under duress’.
I think it was a mistake for her to Say anything about the briefcase not because it was a slip. Because if she’s hoping to use the reunion to launch her book (obviously), assuming we’re all idiots wasn’t the way to do it. We being, the RHOBH viewer, the most likely purchaser of the book.
Could she be charged with taking something from the site of a potential crime?
Her book is discounted 52% on Amazon. I wonder what that indicates..
That the publisher is hoping to goose sales by offering a deep discount? Sounds like its already hit the cyber remainder table. They must have not had much in the way of presales, is my guess.
Mel, I think you are spot on about a PSA. Taylor really would have been much more effective in helping others had she taken that route.
Chica,
Do you get paid to do PSAs? That’s the key for Taylor right? Doe.
Mel lawyers are totally watching.
She actually claims to be a businesswoman, founder of several companies and so, presumably, self-employed. Funny how these people (Taylor) boast about their businesses but then also can’t support themselves. Doesn’t add up, does it?!
Even so, you are dead right that she has connected friends. No WAY no how did she have to stay with him.
But yes, for Kyle it IS 1962. In Kyle’s world, you sleep your way to the top, but you do it to catch a rich man, not for a job. You marry rich, the man supports you, and you have lots of babies to increase and protect your income stream. This is how she was raised, it’s what her mother did, and it’s what both her sisters did. In that family, 5 shotgun weddings and 1 failed shotgun wedding (meaning that last kid was a straight up love child, no marriage at all). That would be Kim’s 4th kid/3rd baby daddy.
Brandi’s “in a hot minute” and “not talking to you Oklahoma” were hilarious. Brandi is the bomb and Andy needs to lose Adrienne, Kim and Taylor. Unfortunately losing Adrienne means no Paul. I like Paul.
Those certainly were some of the best lines of Part 2. She knows exactly how fake Taylor is and wasn’t taking any guff from her.
I wish there had been more reaction shots of Taylor’s face, not that I want to look at her for too much of the show but because inbetween her inappropriate smiles, sometimes her face really gave her away. Instead we saw Kyle’s reaction shots, although some of them were also very revealing of her contempt for Brandi and Lisa. Adrienne’s reactions seemed to move from thinking she was bringing people down onto confusion over how she was so quickly stepping further into quicksand.
And she didn’t have to set up a meeting to preplan one liners.
Now all the posts are broken up on page breaks which is not good. It makes the site hard to follow. Help!!!
ITA, I made a comment about it on yesterday’s blog as well, I don’t like having to click through so many pages.
It took me about a half hour on the first page before i realized there were more pages! I liked the single page format.
It wasn’t doing this yesterday. Not for me anyway. I wrote Lynn about it, don’t know if she can Do anything about it but it sure is annoying.
So, If any of you respond to something I say, and I don’t respond, know that I didn’t see it and I’m not ignoring you.
I *think* Lynn may have changed it to help the blogs load up faster. I hope she changes it back or at least changes it to more threads per page…the blog from yesterday has like 15+ pgs of comments. Confusing!
Sorry Lynn, not trying to complain, I love the site.
Oh, I don’t mind saying that I’m complaining because that’s exactly what I’m doing. I come here for the interaction and this paged view makes it nearly impossible unless one sits and babysits the New Comments part of the page at the top. I don’t have time or desire to do it so yes, I’m complaining about the current format.
Ya, I was kinda trying to go with “at least be happy the site’s working today” but you’re right, it’s very hard to talk w/ppl in this new format. And my dumb ass didn’t even know there was a “new comments” section, lol.
missregina,
My dumb ass. Over 300 comments & I’m like where are they. Duh.
LOL! <3
Agreed. The only real solution is to move from Blog to a Forum. Forums are so much easier to have conversations flow, imo.
Yeah AZGirl. It’s strange the pages are like that.
So according to Kyle, Taylor had to keep the abuse quiet because disclosure would have affected Russell’s ability to provide for Kennedy? Yet, time and time again we hear that Taylor told these ladies her tales of abuse minutes after meeting them. And they all tell us what a small place BH is and how everyone knows everyone else’s business. And we know what a big gossip Kyle is. We’re suppose to believe she wouldnt share every lie Taylor told her with the like of friends like Faye Resnik? Could it be that that is exactly what drove Russell to give up? The likes of “friends” like Kyle had spread the lies far and wide and it could no longer be contained. In the end to Kyle a man is there to provide the BH life at any cost.
“In the end to Kyle a man is there to provide the BH life at any cost.”
Sad statement, but I have to agree. I’m so disgusted that Kyle threw that out there like it was a valid excuse. My husband supports myself and my 2 daughters, and he makes a good living. But I can promise you I’d rather be poor and working 3 minimum wage jobs than stay with a man who was abusing me..
Kyle can say “wait until you’ve walked in her shoes”… I was in an abusive relationship with a wealthy man, not a marriage but it was very serious/long term and I pressed charges and left him. And this was before I had children, now that there are kids involved? No question I wouldn’t protect any abuser. I care more about my family’s health and safety than $$, I guess Taylor can’t say the same. Even though I don’t believe for a second she was abused, I still have to dispute the things she says because it grates on me so much. The fact that she is claiming she’s “helping” battered women just leaves such a bad taste in my mouth.
Whoo, this was all over the place. Apologies.
I don’t mean to drag you through the mud of your past but, If I may ask, How many times did it take before you pressed charges and left?
There were a ton of red flags, and he would get overly angry and throw shit at me/break our stuff, but I called the cops as soon as he actually hit me. He had yanked me around by my hair/held me down previously to that but one day I stood up to him and got in his face (stupid, ya) and he socked me in the eye and tried to choke me out. I couldn’t NOT call the cops after that and I’m so glad I did, that bastard deserved to get arrested and have his record smeared.
I assume it goes without saying, but I moved out of his house the same day.
Good for you and thanks for answering. I assume you found one that treats you the way you deserve to be treated.
Thank you, I appreciate that. And yes, I did, my husband could not be more different than my ex. I hate even calling him that, as I was young and dependent on him so it was f-ed up on many different levels, but I suppose an ex is an ex and I can’t change it.
Holy crap, way too many commas in the above post. Sorry!
Just call him the extra in the background
Glad you found someone to treat you and your daughters as you should be!
Jeff–I like that!
E–thank you<3
I second that.
I have no use for someone telling me ““wait until you’ve walked in her shoes”… There has been a few times in my life someone has said that to me, and when that situation did come along, I did what I said I would do. I know myself well e-damn-nough to know what I will do in a situation, and I certainly hope a majority of people do.
I agree, I think the “wait until you’ve walked in her shoes” is a total cop-out, ESPECIALLY since in this case the accused abuser isn’t even around to defend himself.
Well, second thought, maybe Kyle just does not.
You know? There are plenty of situations when I don’t want to walk in someones shoes and take what they say for face value and proceed. Mistakes happen and you learn from them, but it’s better when you learn from someone else’s mistake.
Also, the footwear I wear doesn’t mean I can’t wade through piles of bullshit and not come out at the end smelling like shit.
I rather make it a point to learn from other peoples’ mistakes than making them myself. Walking is their shoes does not mean you take their path, especially when I you can figure out a better way before you set off.
“wait until you’ve walked in her shoes”
Since Lips McGee was all about exact meaning last night (“I’ll Kill You”), let’s examine Kyle’s wording, if that is the wording she used (I don’t know if it was or not).
She could have instead said, ‘if you’ve walked in her shoes then you would understand’ but she Didn’t. She said “Wait Until… ” meaning, It’s Going to happen to You Too. Now I don’t really believe that Kyle would wish a beating on anyone, not even Brandi, but that wording, I put up there with the same aggressive stance that they are accusing Brandi of having. Of course the entire exchange was bullshit and once again, My Girl Brandi came out on top of that one.
sorry but “wait til you’ve walked in her shoes” = “STFU”.
just an excuse, just a deflection. Kyle is a MASTER at telling everyone else to STFU without actually saying the words.
Awesome! I’m the breadwinner! The husband is getting his ass beat the next time he leaves his dishes exactly two inches from the actual INSIDE of the damn sink. What can he do?! He needs me to support our child and dogs! I love this logic!
Ha.
he better not leave any CRUMBS or you can lose it like Renee
Great Post! I could not have said it better.
This was in response to LA Chica’s post at 9:51 am
Thank you! I just had to vent.
And I agree with you, BB, and others about the changed format for reading posts. I just now figured it out – had at first wondered if posts were getting dropped! I’m glad that’s not the problem but this new format does make it awkward to follow the conversation.
I didn’t want to say anything so as not to sound like a complainer, but I too, do not like the older posts, newer posts format. I like to be able to scroll up and down the page. Just my personal preference.
Wholeheartedly agree with you
My reaction, too, BB. I have a fast computer now, so the entire page loads quickly. I realize those on phones or older PC’s may have more challenge, but I can really fly with my scrolling in the old format.
Yeah I’m on my phone shiny.
I agree. hate this can’t follow the flow of conversation
Hey BB– missed u guys this weekend
All I can say is Taylor..what goes around comes around. This book is going to blow up in her face and I hope Lisa puts away her rose colored glasses and stops enabling the leeches she seems to attract. Adrienne is a non entity to me, she was likely coached to have more of a presence this year but she sucked in Adult 101. Casa Caca!!!!!!! My 14 yr old granddaughter has more intelligent comebacks. The way she came off is enough for me never to set foot at the Palms again. Kyle is a snake…uses her sister as an excuse for all her bad behavior. Loves to point the finger, she should know when you point the finger there’s three other fingers pointing back at you. I would seriously keep her at a distance. Love Lisa, but she can be naive and that’s irritating to me. Camille is putting on a front this year to do damage control from last year. No one changes totally from the biotche she was last year and judging from the tweets posted here I think I’m assuming correctly. Brandi is a doll and I love her..she’s my kind of girl but I hope she doesn’t change too much and falls off my pedestal.
BTW…hi all long post I know but it’s been awhile since I’ve had a life, and time to sit and absorb this blog again…I have officially retired Yeehaw!!!!
Congratulations on your retirement. Enjoy it!
ditto!
Congratulations!
Awesome! I’m the breadwinner! The husband is getting his ass beat the next time he leaves his dishes exactly two inches from the actual INSIDE of the damn sink. What can he do?! He needs me to support our child and dogs! Tee hee!
Sorry! I don’t know why this double posted, and here of all places.
Congrats on your retirement! Enjoy it!
cdn – Congrats on your retirement!!
cdn,
“She doesn’t exist”. Ha.
Woo hoo! Congrats.
Kyle’s defense of her sister and her own behavior was sad. IMO, Kim’s family wanted her on the show because she is a financial burden by choice and was happy being isolated and buzzed to oblivion in her own little world. Every scene she had concerning her almost grown children made me cringe Kim’s children were props in her fantasy world. But the double edge sword was Kyle couldn’t talk about private family matters. When she said she wasn’t an enabler, there was some truth there – she couldn’t speak about why Kim was doing what she was doing – the only thing she could do was keep the loony happy and calm enough to film. Kyle didn’t call Kim out on her horrible behavior at game night (keep the loony happy) and that was what Brandi was trying to get Kyle to admit – it wasn’t really about the hidden crutches. IMO, Kyle copped to her behavior and apologized to Brandi privately and wouldn’t go there publically at the reunion. The fact that Kyle wouldn’t intercede in the White Party Kim gone wild scene with Brandi makes me feel that Kyle did clue Brandi in on Kim after the game night ordeal and Brandi was compassionate while Kim tried to fight with her. IMO, Andy kept Kyle’s feet to the fire and I think he got the Bravo appropriate answer to why Kim should not return next season. Kim may be sober but she is far from watchable.
I will give Kyle a pass on all things relating to her sister but I won’t give her an inch on her behavior towards Lisa, Camille or Brandi. Sorry Angry Spice trumps Two faced Spice – just ask Bobby Fisher!
I think Brandi might have been astute enough to realize that Kim was not in a healthy place mentally or physically, anything Kyle might have told her behind the scenes served merely as confirmation of Kim’s issues.
What I’m left wondering is how are they going to film the next season with each other, the groundwork for serious mistrust and jealousy has been laid and laid deeply and I don’t think it can be glossed over with air kisses a faux smiles.
Oh, it will be glossed over. Ex: The 180 in suddenly believing Taylor post The Suicide & yes, Lisa’s 180 at the end of the tea party (that WAS weird)
I don’t think it will work..remember how everything was glossed over from season 3 into season 4 of RHNYC it didn’t work…viewers didn’t buy it, the cast could’nt pull it off and no amount of editing would make it believable.
excellent point!
Good point Jezzibel. How is S3 gonna start when the 3 really don’t like Lisa or Brandi? They’re gonna fake smile there way through it.
I think that after Camille’s skewering and public humiliation last year she might be inclined and maybe a little entitled to want to hide in the bathroom some. It’s understandable. I also think that even though she has seemingly changed for the better this year that she still has blood running through her veins and when people are insulting her on twitter she still has a bad reaction every now and then. She’s human. We all behave in negative, reactionary ways from time to time.
I don’t think Kim will come back next season and I really hope Taylor gets cut. I just don’t believe anything she says. This was an interesting post about one of Russell’s ex girlfriends.
http://www.tamaratattles.com/2012/02/russell-armstrongs-ex-girlfriend-speaks.html#more
I agree with you completely about Camille.
Now I need to go read what the ex-girlfriend said.
Ha!!!! I knew it!!!! After learning about all the Richards’ sisters and mother shotgun weddings this weekend, I started suspecting Taylor’s and Russell’s was a shotgun wedding too. I started sniffing around the Taylor-Russell timeline but could not find the dates of their marriage and Kennedy’s birth. I suspected these dates being missing was very much on purpose.
This just confirms it! Russell meets Taylor and one month later she’s prego. This is such an outdated thing, I almost can’t believe how many shotgun weddings there are on this show. I can’t believe how often it actually works!
tanuki…they met 2-2005…married oct 2005..kennedy born 2-2006
Diva, I am <3'ing you! Where did you find those dates? I was guessing Kennedy's b'day was late April/early May from the filming schedule of S1.
No it’s in February!
So. She meets him in Feb, is pregnant in 3 months. Then, according to her, a man she is not married to, and has now known for 4 months, forces forces her to do some home blood test to determine the sex of the fetus, so he can decide if he is going to make her get an abortion. And she goes along.
Helluva maternal instinct, eh? /sarcasm
yes, thank you for reminding us of this! Some random dude she has just met 4 months prior is somehow able to force her to do a blood-test, so he can decide if he is going to force her to abort.
????
She was forced to go along with this because…?
It was really a PATERNITY test.
I’m confused by the comments section. I just posted and I can’t find my comment. Is the blog buggy today? It also tells me I’ve timed out when I hit post comment the first time. Weird.
You have to keep refreshing until it posts.
http://lynnnchicago.com/?p=4651&cpage=4#comment-148160
Don’t know the real reason for it but see the above link.
You’ll have to click the “newer comments” button until you get to the most recent ones.
Hi everyone,
I see there continues to be blog problems. I am having a tough time posting and have since yesterday. No big deal, it happens. But does anyone know what the deal is with the multiple comment pages? Is this a new format, or is it part of the problem?
Boobah, I’m thinking it is a new format. I know there’s an option to have comments split into multiple pages vs 1 big page (I’m assuming for page loading speed purposes)
Thanks Missregina. I was afraid of that. I kinda really enjoyed the one page with all the comments for the day. It took me a while to figure out how to go back and forth to comments throughout the day, but once I learned about the Shift+F3, it became more easier, faster, and more fun.
I think it’s just a switch that’s turned on or off with the blog software and right now, it’s on for some reason. Should be a pretty simple fix if Lynn wants to accommodate us (Please Lynn…?).
Thanks for the info, Mel.
Yes….Please Lynn?
Here’s what happened…I was trying to be pro-active so I hired an IT person to monitor the site and ensure that it was running smoothly. Well you know the old saying, “If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it” haha Well my IT person is great, she did everything she was supposed to do but something went wrong and the site started to go very slow then it went down altogether.
She fixed whatever was slowing it down but we still have some work to do to and I’m trying to take her advice on everything but it’s tough because I know the Bravo video’s being embeded slow it down as do the high resolution photographs.
When I have some time I can work on changing the resolution on some photos that I use regularly, that will help and we’re also working on getting a separate plug in for comments that has an unlimited amount of space.
In the end it was a bit of a pain but I’m really glad I am doing things by the book and in the best way possible to ensure that everything will run properly in the future.
Thanks for your patience!!! xoxo
BB…no crow being served at my house today or ever…. I knew all along she was a lying manipulative bitch
and by the use of that word I am being kind..
Her use of the dazzle them with brilliance..and baffle them with bullshit didn’t leave it’s mark
on me.. I saw right thru her smoke and mirrors routine.
One day Taylor will have to answer for all that she has done..
Her world will now start to crumble around her and it’s of her own doing
The only people I feel for in all of this..are the children
They truly are the victims in this..and all the others who have suffered from REAL DV….
Interested in everyone’s opinions on Andy’s questions?
Has he finally realized that he has to ask the questions the majority of viewers are asking? Is he doing so only to make himself look better (we always seem to hammer him on his reunion behavior and the calibre of questions asked.) or could he be feed up with lawsuit leeches, child star syndrome, mental illness and substance abuse?
WCW.. I thought some of Andys questions had an air of legalese to them…
Thank you Diva – I did too, even his body language got “serious” on a few of those legalese questions!
Did anyone else catch the guilty, sheepish look on Adrienne’s face when Brandi said that Lisa had never said a bad word to her about any of the other housewives?
I also like it when Camille backed up Brandi by asking Taylor, “Yeah, what IS your case?”
Lisa seemed in a better place during this period. I wonder how much time this edited version actually represents?
Kyle. She had me for a moment there, I really thought she was on the high road when she accepted responsibility for her bad behavior, but then she just couldn’t take it all the way home and admit that it was wrong of her to keep quiet about the whereabouts of Brandi’s crutches. Imho, this is how relatively small things take on more significance than they should.
Bottom line………………
There’s no doubt in my mind that this is all Taylor BS. Her big lip prints are all over this reunion chaos. She probably went crying to Kyle and Adrienne both that she was terrified of Lisa and Camille calling her out. They then try setting up a meeting, inviting Brandi, assuming she is still pro-Cedric and therefore anti-Lisa. “I heard this from someone” was heard out of both Kyle and Adrienne’s mouths. They “heard” it from TAYLOR. Here she is playing the victim AGAIN and Kyle and Adrienne are so stupid they buy into it. Adrienne’s arm is there to protect her. Kyle is holding her hand. Taylor doesn’t have Russell to harm her now – so she is starting sh!t with the three women across the room. Just so she can be the victim again. Kyle and Adrienne are natural bullies so they buy into it.
Dumb as doorknobs those two. Bravo Taylor! You get to ruin more lives.
Yep, definitely a big lipped rat in the room.
Great Blogging all! I love Lisa and Giggy. I’m so glad Giggy tells it like it is on Twiiter. Screw you Lips. I loved Brandi’s honesty. I 100% believe that there was a meeting scheduled after seeing Adrienne’s reaction. As for the suitcase, Taylor was that the suitcase filled with your blackmail info that you (allegedly) showed Russell before he killed himself? Just saying, it’s suspicious as hell. Have a great day all! Gotta go shopping.
In watching Kim’s new video clips of the reunion with Andy – she is so far from alright! She can’t forgive or take responsibility for anything. This is so sad – what is her family thinking?
I keep going back in my mind to the first episode where taylor “runs” into Kyle shopping for a dress..taylor goes on about “running” into Cedric and she is worried that Lisa may read something more into it… Well..was taylor afraid that someone saw her talking to cedric ??? I think that taylor herself was the “source” for all things related..stories to radar etc…. and she told things to cedric who then in turn embellished them and re told them to “others”..I also think that cedric told things to taylor about his “stay” at lisa’s…..and maybe..just maybe..this is what lisa is protecting by befriending taylor…. is just may buying her silence…just my gut feeling…
I thought it was odd that Cedric asked Kyle if she was afraid of Lisa at the SUR event.
@ Diva As I have stated,ad nauseum, it all starts with Cedric. My gut is usually always right.
Excellent blog today! I wrote a long post and lost it. Oh well.
BTW Brandi rocks!!! I take back every critical statement I’ve made about her (although I still wish she’d wear more clothes–she’s a beautiful girl and it’s distracting). A straight shooter with humor. If she doesn’t get a permanent place on the Housewives roster Bravo would be totally missing the boat!
Bravo struck gold with Brandi – I hope they capitalize on it next season. Lisa and Camille like her for who she is and her ability to cut through the bs. I would have stopped watching this season after game night if it wasn’t for Brandi.
Me too, Windy! Brandi saved the show for me.
Posted this a.m. but don’t see my comment. Are there still problems with moderation?
Do you mean This one?
http://lynnnchicago.com/?p=4651&cpage=2#comment-148109
Right now the blog comments are in a Paged format of x number of threads per page. Your post is on page 2 of the comments. There are older posts and newer posts at the top and bottom of the comments.
(Yes, It’s annoying).
Have you checked all the pages? I think I replied to a post of yours this AM
Cross-posted with Jeff, that’s the post I was talking about.
BEST BLOG EVER as always Lynn….
TY Michael for writing a review. It was very well written, and informative. I had no intention of buying her book of lies:) Glad someone I trust to tell me the truth, wrote a review about it.
LOVE fashion roundup. Great stuff!
Possibly stale news – Mauricio left Hilton & Hyland in September and opened his own real estate agency. It’s not-so-creatively named, “The Agency.”
I always speculated that him being employed by Rick Hilton (Kim’s sister Kathy’s husband) at Hilton & Hyland kept him on a pretty tight leash, maritally. He could never leave Kyle because his employment would be at risk. Now, though, he’s a man on his own, employment-wise. Hmmmmmm….
Also read there was a blind item on a gossip site, saying, “Which RHOBH couple acts like they are the most in love but who are actually having problems and don’t even sleep in the same bad half the time?” Half of the commenters guessed Kyle & Mauricio. Not to wish anyone ill, but that marriage is the only shotgun wedding of her family’s 5 total shotgun weddings, so from that point of view, it would not be a real shock.
I dove into Richards research this weekend, and it’s still on my brain. Did you realize Kim Richards has 3 baby daddies? 1 shotgun wedding, 2 kids by her 1 regular wedding, and the youngest just a straight-up love child, no marriage involved at all. Didn’t people give Kim Zolciak grief for having 3 baby daddies? Yet I can’t recall hearing people mention this about Kim Richards. As for Kyle, both her 2 marriages were shotgun weddings. Their mom’s first 2 marriages? Also shotgun weddings. Mom’s first marriage, Kim’s first marriage, Kyle’s first marriage? ALL shotgun weddings, ALL failed within two years. TWO years. Yet no one learned any lessons and changed their ways. Kim still got pregnant out of wedlock with child #4, and Kyle still did, too, with her child #2. When women of a different color and less money do this, they get called out in a major way. Yet no one calls out these women. Well, I will! Witchards sisters, you’ve been served!
argh! should have proof read!
2nd para, last line, should read “but that marriage is the only shotgun wedding of her family’s 5 total shotgun weddings THAT HAS NOT FAILED, so from that point of view, it would not be a real shock.” (adding the part in all caps)
sorry for double-post.
ITA with everything you said. I mentioned that blind item the other daytoo in reference to Paul and Adrienne, but it could easily be Kyle and M. Very interesting that he has finally broken away from the fam business..
I think the item is Adriene and Paul, but I so agree with your point about all these higher income level white women getting knocked up – and a second time around! Good grief!
I don’t think it is fair to vilify women in shotgun marriages and not the men. They are equally as responsible for using protection. If men don’t want to be trapped maybe they should wear a raincoat.
Yes, agreed 100%. When I learn of men with a series of shotgun weddings or out-of-wedlock babies, I will gladly call them out as well. I think this was a topic of discussion for Kandi’s boyfriend on RH of ATL, him having multiple baby-mamas. So yes, it does cut both ways.
And, also, please know – I would not call out just 1 shotgun wedding. Things happen. I might not even call out 2, *maybe*. But what happened in this family happened so often, it is obviously a pattern, and obviously intentional. 6 conceptions out of wedlock between mom and 2 daughters. 2 out-of-wedlock conceptions each. You know, they figured out what causes that!
I am not vilifying the women. I am pointing out the repeat occurrence of a questionable event (shotgun wedding). The fact that there is a deep connection between the 3 women with so many shotgun weddings – that is just a fact (I didn’t make it up) that speaks for itself. And, it’s something I don’t think gets enough press.
Not that that is not true, but that is NOT what I tell my daughter.
When the girls went to Colorado, Taylor was found sitting in a suitcase. What’s the timeline there? What was going on with her?
When the very first passage of, “orders of protection,” went through, I remember watching stories of abuse. This goes back over 25 years. The most memorable was told by Deborah Norville in a documentary called, “Shattered Dreams.” In it a woman’s letter is found in her safety deposit box at the bank. It read, “If you find this, it means I’m dead. He killed me. I’m sorry. I didn’t want to leave my house, my curtains, my dining room ……..”
She didn’t want to leave her house and her stuff. She was found burned to death. True story. We’ve grown up since then because women have come forth. The idea of not wanting to leave the, “Beverly Hills lifestyle,” rings true to me.
To hear women talk about, “having to walk on egg shells,” makes me pray that we learn to protect each other. This discussion on whether or not Taylor is telling the truth, etc., makes me feel like we’ve taken 25 giant steps back. It really does hurt the women who are telling the truth. The ones who are afraid to tell the truth, cause who’s going to believe they weren’t strong enough to leave.
Though I respect your feelings, I just don’t think at the end of the day, a liar will really hurt someone telling the truth. In my mind, as I have run though the details in Taylor’s situation, I match them up with details of situations of others I know told the truth – or didn’t even have to tell he truth because is was pretty evident (as well, of course with mostly her own contradictions). And though it does ring true – my own mother has said over the last 40 years or so that she is not leaving her house, he can leave – I don’t believe that it is Taylor’s story. She asked Russell to leave, and he moved out.
I have no trouble believing there are many abused women who can’t find the strength to leave their abuser. But I cannot believe for a minute that Taylor is one of them. She is just way too combative a person, and she showed no signs of fear of Russell when she got rid of the puppy he gave Kennedy, or told him she wanted to stay at the white party (S1) when he wanted to leave. Or or or… we could go on, couldn’t we.
What a controlling monster! Leaving the party without her so he could deal with his sister who needed help. /sarcasm
I understand what you are saying and I have to say that for the most part I agree (though I’m not a member of the club). I Tried to believe her at first but nothing she says has even a slight ring of truth to it. Not in the least. If she wanted to bring awareness and get a conversation going, there are many effective ways of doing it. I don’t believe he ever touched her and that is her real crime in all this. I said this a few days ago. She could tell me the sky was blue and I would have to go check and see for myself. One of you on the other hand, could tell me the same thing, and I would take you at your word. I’m sure you can understand the difference here.
Lips McGee lying to the public doesn’t hurt me one bit but it pisses me off. She can lie about her finances all she wants, it doesn’t change my life. The people, in the public, I Do believe are hurt from her lies are the true victims. As has been noted here Many times, two questions come to mind in the doubters. 1, Did it really happen and 2, What did you do to deserve it. Well, the answer to 2 is nothing. No one Deserves it. The answer to 1 is, probably. We would like to give a guilty til proven innocent slant in these cases but the sad fact is, the Lips McGees of the world, raise a reasonable doubt in the minds of many.
People here have shared their stories since I’ve been participating in the blog. I’ve never Once asked, Did it really happen. The very least I’ve said is that I hope you’re in a better place now. To that some respond yes while others don’t respond. I suspect there may even be some readers who are Not in a better place and it is for them, I’m pissed at the Lips McGee types.
You may see it as being pushed back 25 years but I see it, in this case, as calling bullshit on a bullshitter. The more people who do that, in my mind, the better off the Next victim will be. Hope you can understand where *I* stand on this and see that it isn’t on the necks of the abused.
Great post Jeff. I don’t think I could agree more. Thank you for putting it into words so eloquently, I have a hard time getting my thoughts re this subject across sometimes.
Our favorite matchmaker just recognized me on the streets of NYC!! I would have rather looked Medusa dead in the eye
ewww patti stanker?? gross. Did you give her the stink eye?
LOL, no way! After the blog I read about how rude she was to you, I’d never have expected her to recognize you. I wanna say “cool!”, but its the Stanker…haha. By the way, commented on your blog earlier, in case you didn’t catch it (wonky comment format) great blog today, ITA re: Cedric and his over-inflated sense of entitlement. Unreal.
Michael, I’d suggest watching carefully. If she now knows you, I think it means she finds you useful. You’re in the power seat now.
argh! should have proof read!
2nd para, last line, should read “but that marriage is the only shotgun wedding of her family’s 5 total shotgun weddings THAT HAS NOT FAILED, so from that point of view, it would not be a real shock.” (adding the part in all caps)
sorry for double-post.
Good Morning Lynn, Thank you for these juicy Blogs!
Could someone tell if Taylor will be in The View this Morning? Is 10:00AM in the west coast but they have not announced Taylor this morning!
Cusi. Taylor was on the View yesterday.
Barber Walters keeps asking Taylor some interesting things. Like the part where Taylor misses being controlled and how this book can help anyone if Taylor misses that part of their relationship.
GOOD. I missed this comment earlier. I haven’t watched any of her intvws (can’t stomach them), but this is good to hear.
I can’t post!
Will Taylor be on The View this Morning?
How are you feeling today Cusi? I thought Taylor was on the View yesterday so I get you can find it online.
Cusi, she was on yesterday. You didn’t miss much.
Lynn,
Love the blog, hate the new comments paging.
Thanks – Hang in there, we’ll get it together soon, promise!
Has anyone read Eonline’s recap if the reunion last night? Whoever wrote it is manipulative and shady. Quotes are misworded and out of order. Shady shady.
In whose favor are they shady for? Taylor?
Can you link the recap please? I never go to the E website, I just looked and didn’t see a recap.
Never mind, here’s the link if anyone needs it: http://www.eonline.com/news/_i_Real_Housewives_of_Beverly_Hills__i__Reunion_Recap__Slashed_Tires__the_C_Word_and_Suspected_Murder__/292034
Reading now..
Wow, color me confused, what on earth was manipulative and shady about that?!
What a great blog today–wowsa —Thanks Lynn, Michael, Michelle and Julie.
Does anyone remember all of the gay lover acusations about Russell right after the suicide and then they disappeared? Later, Taylor is outed as having lesbian relationship with Fernanda. I think we can take all of the things Taylor says as projection of her real self.
http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/08/russell-armstrong-gay-secrets-about-be-exposed-claims-insider
http://www.hollywoodlife.com/2011/12/29/taylor-armstrong-lesbian-fernanda-rocha/
I suspected cedric of planting that tidbit
Taylor did not have a lesbian relationship with Fernanda. I wrote a blog about that, I interviewed Fernanda and got the scoop
@ Michael After your interview Fernanda came out and said she had lied to protect Taylor.
http://www.realitytea.com/2011/12/30/taylor-armstrongs-lesbian-fling-confirmed-by-fernanda-rocha-says-taylor-hurt-her/
Thanks Lunatic (lol) I was looking for that article.
Thank you! I thought I was losing it for a second because I recalled reading it.
@ MissP I like it,Lunatic!
@E-rizzle NP, you’re welcome. I have a memory like a trap. It’s not really a plus…usually ticks people off!
Sorry that is total bullshit, I interviewed her in person after this came out
Tell us more M. I find the first article the most serious/interesting as it says Taylor (allegedly) says that she found hits for a men’s gay site on Russell’s computer and decided he was secretly gay and that it was going to come out and that was a contributing factor toward his suicide. Then–that story went away. My thought was that T threw everything she could think of up on the wall to see what would stick. Then re-thought when Russell’s family began to protest–
@ Michael M First, telling someone something is bullshit is not the way to make friends and influence people. What would have been the mature tactic would have been stating the date of your interview and then comparing that to the date of the interview that I referenced i.e. the article in which she rescinded her initial claim of not have having an affair w/Taylor. But that wouldn’t have quelled your argument because you published your interview with FR on 12/15/11 and the interview I referenced was published on 12/30/11.
I could not find any published interview past the 12/15/11 date with yourself and FR but, if one exists, I stand corrected.
So Taylor’s eyeball is barely in her skull yet she doesn’t bruise? Even though when I walk into the coffee table I am bruised for days? So she is saying that at Sur she put on make-up to make a bruise and then put some more make-up to cover up the fake bruise? Oh okay.
I think all the ladies gossip with each other about fellow cast members. Brandi is the same way only she is announcing to everyone what every single conversation is. I agree with Sarah last night, that is refreshing but probably not a friend I would like to have.
It appears I offended someone last night when I semidefended Brandi and the tire flashing. I don’t think REALLY think he is lucky that Brandi didn’t cut off his penis. But I do think what he did was dangerous, exposing her and their unborn baby to diseases that can be life threatening. So with that level of danger and betrayal I am not seeing how it is violent to break something that belongs to the both parties in a moment of anger. And I would support a man running around breaking jewelry in the marriage or other items if he was cheated on.
I hope when Taylor is kicked off the show Kyle goes and apologizes to Lisa for ignoring her and not defending her. Maybe with Taylor out of the picture they can mend fences. Neither lady is perfect and I think their problems are petty enough they can get over them.
It is Brandi’s right not to like Kyle and not accept her apology. But if she is running around saying she is forgiving everyone and she just wants to belong maybe in the background she should stop texting (accidentally) that Kyle is a C U N T. Now the timing makes sense why Kyle wanted Mauricio to say Brandi’s name on WWHL. Brandi really can’t act like a victim in the press when she is being mean behind the scenes too.
That being said Brandi can say all the mean things she wants about Taylor. Clearly she is the only one calling Taylor out on her crap and saying what viewers are all screaming. So for that I like Brandi.
I don’t think Brandi is acting like a victim. When asked about the C U N Tuesday text, she didn’t hesitate to own up to it. In fact, that was the biggest giggle Andy got the whole hour.
I knew she was a total fruad when I saw the clip of her saying she put her dislocated jaw back into place over a toilet. My friend had a dislocated jaw and the only way it could be fixed was by a doctor putting it back into place and then he had to have it wired shut to heal properly. Not everyone has to get the wire, but you cannot open you mouth too wide, eat hard or very chewy foods or smile large. Now when have’nt we seen Taylor open her mouth wide or smile large. I’m not saying that I havent always been a little weary of Taylor, but this just drove the point home of the BS she’s been selling.
Exactly! My husband actually has jaw issues from his college football days and when it slips out of place he has to wait for it to slip back in, which means a lot of pain medication, no talking, no eating solids, and rare smiles.
Taylor smiles and opens her mouth like a snake. No way anything happened to her jaw.
Disturbing visual (Traylor not your hubs), but ITA
If Russell(RIP) was the master grifter that he’s alleged to have been, why would he risk bring himself to the notice of the FBI &DOJ by asking them to look into his multiple namchanged wife/gf?
It would seem smarter on his part to have a PI look do a background check on her. Federal agencies have better things to do with their time and rescources then to run background checks at the behest of one grifter on another grifter(again why risk drawing attention to yourself).
I think Taylor/Shana/whomever plagerized some aspect of her book from movie scripts thrown in the trash dumpster behind the Paramount studios lot.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/07/real-housewife-taylor-armstrong-tells-all-or-does-she.html
I commented on this article on pg 1 or 2 I believe–great article. A couple things that stood out to me…
” Asked how she could work with battered women for so long yet never pick up the phone and call 911 herself, she tells The Daily Beast, “When you are stuck in this cycle it is so hard to understand! As long as [daughter Kennedy] was happy I wanted to keep it all together for her.””
–I don’t get this, Kennedy NEVER seemed happy, and she said the “last straw” was when he punched her in the eye. Just more lies from Traylor.
““Besides, I am in contact with Russell’s dad. I talk with him every couple of weeks and we’ve sent letters back and forth.” Taylor says her lawyer has let the mothers of Russell’s two older children know that she is putting together photo scrapbooks for each boy”
–Kennedy’s grandparents haven’t contacted T (or tried to)? I find that hard to believe. Well, she says she talks to the dad via snail mail, which is odd too.. Finally, she had her LAWYER contact the other moms? Huh? She really couldn’t reach out to them herself?
More so, why would your husband ‘let you’ work at a “battered women’s shelter” when according to you (Lying Lips) he kicks your ass about ever 6 weeks or so.
Eleven reviews on Amazon now, 10 with one star. I don’t think all the reviewers have actually read the book but it does point to the backlash ahead for Taylor. Kind of good to know we aren’t the only ones questioning her accounts of DV.
What’s going on with the blog today? it says 242 comments but I only see a handful and the ones from this morning are gone. It is like I am on a different page or something. Anyone else seeing what I am seeing?
I see we have a new feature…older comments & newer comments. Not sure I like it.
Yeah, it seems like most of us don’t. On one of the many pages Lynn commented and said they are working on a new comment space w/ unlimited space, so hopefully it will be back to normal ASAP
That is good news! I have been wondering. I am not able to keep up with all the pages, so I missed that. Thank you.
Boobah: here is Lynn’s post http://lynnnchicago.com/?p=4651&cpage=4#comment-148274
Great reunion last night. My thoughts…
VileKyle, Kyle, Kyle, you evil old ____! How evident are your priorites and advice to a battered woman. Stay in an abusive relationship because of the lifestyle. Don’t report injuries because he’ll be unable to support you in the lifestyle you’ve grifted others for and became accostomed to. Yes winning and life saving advice alright. When she called Brandi “scary or angry spice” Brandi should’ve countered with ‘And you’re OldSpice’! LOL She actually told Brandi to “Give it a rest!” about the missing crutches. I almost had a coronary! When it’s about her bad behaviour she wants to keep it quick and moving. When it’s about anyone else she wants a forensic investigation. Double standard much?
LizardLipKyle also defends TaylorsaurusLips v. Brandi when TraylorTrash is more than willing to put up her dukes with the leggy beauty. So it must’ve been discussed in the meeting… Lips against Brandi, Splits against Brandi everyone against VillaBladonkadonk. Yes, LipLickerSplitQuickerKyle couldn’t defend her OldBFF LisaVanderRump against the AloofMaloof even though the SurRestauranteur was her biggest defender at the S1 Reunion. The QuickWitBrit brazenly shut down any talk by Camille AND Kim of KretinousKyle at last years reunion, negating their obvious feelings and perceptions of the evil that was done to them by Mrs.MoMansky.
Also when LickedlySplit and LabiaMajora were going in on Brandi about LeannGrimes, her ex and the tires, I so wish Brandi would’ve said “WWKyleRichards do?” The hateful woman wants to tear out the eyes of any woman looking at her husband, imagine if MoTurturro actually left her for another? Methinks he’d be 6ft under and Brandi would’ve been accused of killing kittens for the question. Begrudgingly and much to my chagrin, sigh, I HAVE to give LisaVanderpump credit for sticking up for Brandi. She had to point out the obvious figure of speech, ensuring that Brandi wasn’t a killer and that while not something many would do, Brandi’s reaction to her philandering husband was understood. Hell yeah it is! ;D
Part 2 of the reunion was great. I wish Brandi would’ve been a little more confrontational and not let the bad lady, term used loosely, on the other couch have the final word so much. She ‘went there’, but i’m sure she wasn’t trying to get kicked off the show either! LOL She said what many were thinking and to that I say… Thank you Brandi! You held their feet to the fire and they may be blistered and limping today in the court of public opinion.
very eloquently worded
Lol
LOL You so Crazy!
Labia Majora…omg I’m dying. hahahahah
I would comment further but I’m laughing too hard
What is going on with the comments on the blog? Instead of all being listed on one page, they are separated into page after page. Anyone else having that problem?
Comments are broken up into pages for now. Lynn says they are working on switching it back to comments all on one page. Hopefully soon, this format is somewhat hard to follow.
OK, I am not going to weed through all the pages of comments to see if this was mentioned, but Dana’s blog is up on the Bravo site…..
As far as I’ve seen, it hasn’t been mentioned…thanks Trudie!
For questions re new comment format, here’s Lynn’s post about it:
http://lynnnchicago.com/?p=4651&cpage=4#comment-148274
Thought I’d link and make it easier since its a major PITA going through all these pages LOL
That’s too bad. I don’t mean to be rude but it sounds like the IT person is not very experienced. The time it takes to read the comments or even post a comment has got to be a major turn off to a lot of people, not to mention being timed out of the blog period.
I agree, WC.
missregina – thanks so much for linking the comment from Lynn. I never would have found it!
Lynn – Thanks and no worries from me. This must be a huge pain in the azz. Sorry for that, but your blog is just that damn good.
Funny, I just wrote a comment to you w/ this link on a different page! Wasn’t sure if you’d end up stumbling on this one.
Um… am I on probation or something? My last post is “awaiting moderation.”
Was it something I said?
Did you said f*** or c**k? I tried to say I was having a c**ktail the other night (not in a dirty way, I was drinking a Long Island) and my post got sent to moderation.
A lady after my own heart. I loves me a Long Island Iced Tea, although I generally only get them at Red Lobster. Maybe I’ll have one for the next installment of the reunion! What goes in them, equal parts gin, vodka, rum, tequila, then enough cola to turn it as tea-colored as you like?
From Dana’s blog: “I couldn’t help but think to myself as I watched this episode that there are so many of us that just want to be friends like Taylor and Lisa or me and Kyle (in the beginning), but for some reason there were all these walls up. ”
……I’m crying, I’m laughing so hard. Kyle NEVER wanted to be your friend, Dana!!! Get real.
Thanks for posting that. I wonder what she meant by “(in the beginning)” regarding her and Kyle’s…cough, cough…friendship?
IDK?! All I saw from the beginning was her being a huge kiss-ass and Kyle having none of it.
That’s what I thought as well. So, there we have it…it was likely wishful thinking on PamDana’s part.
Lol…As I was typing this just now I forgot her name, I sat here and was like, Um, what the hell is her name??
That tells me something right there about whats-her name. Lol!
LOL!!! You’re so right, that pretty much sums her up… WHO?
Extra, Puleeze. You were Never Kyle’s friend. You should have stuck with the other new girl, you’re ratings probably would have been Much higher. I’m sure Kyle loves having someone around who will kiss her ass though. Which one or was it Both sisters that the extra wanted a private vacation with?
She wanted a double-dose of Bitchards on a private vacay. LMAO what a joke
Everyone,
Just a head’s up that some of us add to Diva’s Taylor page as new facts are revealed, such as the briefcase last night…if you find out new info or want to record your questions, please take a moment to go to that page.
Ice
PS Lynn, did you want the Taylor page reprogrammed to split into sections rather than srolling thru the whole thing? Keeping all on one page is easier, imo.
What a casino around Lynn’s place with these weird timeouts, etc.
how, where is the page, please?
at the top of the blog are listings of all the various pages of the blog. The one that Ice is talking about is titled: Taylor armstrong/Shana Ford/Insert Name Here
thanks!!!
I don’t know if Lynn and Q had a falling out but what ever it was they have not said anything publicly (other bloggers can learn from that hint hint Angel) therefore I am posting a part if this and leaving the link.
I am in tears reading this. You have to read this, it’s about why this woman don’t believe Taylor. It’s rude to copy someone’s blog so I won’t copy and paste the whole story. It’s really sad though.
TRUE STORY
I would like to remain Anonymous because I am real a survivor of domestic violence. It really makes me angry that Taylor is putting on this show for everyone. As much as I am against cyber bullying on the internet, it has happened to Taylor recently and I bet she uses this to her advantage. According to radaronline.com someone threatened to kidnap her and her child which isn’t right, I heard she got the F.B.I. involved, but I also heard that Taylor engaged with this person. Although it’s never okay to threaten a child, if in fact Taylor did engage with him, that wasn’t right either. She should know working with domestic violence victims and gets counseling for it, to never engage with stalkers or people you don’t know, who make threats to you on the internet, just report it as soon as you can. All you’re doing is feeding in to them and not making the situation better. They also tell you to never let them know if you got law enforcement involved. I am also against one gaining sympathy, making money and seeking stardom by pretending to be a victim of abuse. In this case, it’s Taylor Armstrong who is doing it and should be against the law and is a slap in the face to real victims like myself.
The reason why I am sharing my story is because there so many inconsistencies with Taylor’s story and I think with Taylor making money by representing the 1736 Crisis Center and (let’s be safe and say allegedly) is despicable because I feel Taylor is taking little parts of their victims stories and adding them to her story to make her story believable. I think by me sharing my story, people can understand why this woman should not be believed. I think people who are enabling Taylor know in the back of their minds that she isn’t being truthful. We saw that on RHBH. Or perhaps someone of it is true but she is like I said, I still think she is taking bits from real victim’s stories and adding them to their own. I also believe that Taylor was also the abuser along with Russell. I think they beat on each other. Just because a woman hits a man, I think it’s sad that it’s not taken as serious as if a man hit a woman. Her whole story, (lies) infuriates me. I also am convinced Taylor is sociopath. She lies so much she is starting to believe her own lies but we are mean for calling her out. Before you say I am harsh, I do know that everyone and every situation is different, I am well aware of that. As I share my story, I won’t get in to much detail about my own, because this isn’t about me, It’s about Taylor like she wants it to be, I will stop at times and point out some discrepancies. Writing isn’t a hobby, I apologize in advance.
My ex used to beat the hell out of me, there is no other way to put it. When we first met, although I was attracted to him, he was handsome, I loved his muscular body, but I was turned off by his temperament I was a strong minded person, I didn’t take crap from no one until I met him. To be frank, I was an idiot and he won me over because I thought I could change him, I like him so much because he would flatter the hell out of me……………………………….. http://foralltrekkies.wordpress.com/2012/02/05/one-thousand-and-one-nights-gifts-from-my-father-the-story-of-a-victim-of-domestic-abuse/
Anonymous, Thanks for being brave and sharing your story.
Well I’m lost, dunno who Q is. Powerful comment, there are many domestic abuse survivors out there HATING Taylor right now (myself included).
Q = Quincey. She used to post on this board and for awhile she helped Lynn writting blogs. Something happened, don’t know the details but Q left and has her own blog now. Occationally a poster from there might be a distraction here but never for long.
Thanks for clearing that up a bit, Viki. I was totally l0st.
I keep remembering her now as DanTana, then morphing into the image of Bill Dana..lol.
LOL! Ohh Dana.
Quincy has a story about bravery before her story.
Whoops this was supposed to be with the PamDamHah thread above!
Does it bother anyone else that Taylor’s “proof” that she didn’t know anything about the email to Camille was because she was in Vegas at the time it was sent? There is a thing called “Save as Draft”. That email could have been written at any time and just sent while she was in Vegas. I am just not buying she didn’t know anything about the email’s contents.
And you can log into an email account from anywhere in the world. Just because she was in Vegas doesn’t mean she didn’t send it. Heck, she could have sent the email from her own phone.
Wouldn’t it be great to get a subpoena and trace where it was sent from.
I wish!
I guess I am assuming that the email did actually come from his account and was sent by him. I can just hear the plan in my head as they finish up the draft:
TAYLOR: Now don’t forget, send the email when I am at the Chipmunks Show with Lisa so I can play innocent.
RUSSEL:Yes, yes, just tell me exactly what time you will be at the show.
Taylor: This is going to be so great, she won’t know what hit her!
How much do you think she will cough up?
I’ve been monitoring Amazon. There’s still only one positive review (5 stars, of course), and they’ve removed two others that were written by people who hadn’t read the book, and were only making statements in defense of “Taylor”.
Loved Diane Dimond’s Daily Beast piece. Judging from my travels in the blogosphere today, it looks like it’s being widely read. Good!
The NY Mag (Vulture) recap is excellent also.
Doesn’t “Taylor” have a book signing in NJ tonight? Wonder how that will go.
There is an article on People Magazine about Brandi. It is in regards I the reunion, and at the end there is a poll (?) to vote if u like or don’t like her. Most like her
Thanks for posting this. Great article. People’s comments always crack me up. Someone referred to Taylor as “Natasha on Bullwinkle.” Funny!
Just wanted to say, didnt Taylor say she lost her phone in Vegas (when Russel supposedly sent the e-mail and we know now he was in vagas himself) anyway wouldnt that mean that Taylor probably asked him to use his phone which means it only lends more to the theory that Taylor in fact sent “abusive text” that lisa did NOT SEE until the Next Morning….Not only that, but Adrienne stated on the reunion last night that Taylor told her about the Abusiveness going on only a few maonths after she met Taylor, but yet on season 1, at Taylors charity card party, Adrienne acted sooo surprise that Taylor was involved or a part of anything like this…..Ya know this is why I believe Brandi more and more about the “gang-up” by Kyle, Taylor and the ring leader Adrienne. At the Tea party,white party and especially the Sur party, Adrienne was the major one that you could tell def. did not believe Taylor, but because Adrienne knew that the viewers were against her cause of goiung after Lisa after her fashion show she had to get Taylor to be on her side, cause she probably didnt want to risk taking flack from the viewers for going after the “DV girl”….I wonder what Adriennes thinking is now toward Taylor knowing that a Majority of the viewers are against Taylor,…and now Adrienne too!!!
I may have missed it, but I’m surprised no one brought up the fact that most celebrities require their staff to sign confidentiality agreements where they are banned from repeating or reporting anything they see while in said celebrity’s employment. Either Adrienne isn’t the savvy business woman that she wants everyone to know she is or Bernie is her puppet and saying all the things that she wants said but doesn’t have the cajones to say herself. I know which I think the answer is. Anyone else?
Yes, if you read thru the blog comments on here, lots of people believe that Adrienne uses Bernie to do her dirty work. Who wouldn’t fire their staff for making such defamatory comments about another high profile person?
Just wanted to say, didnt Taylor say she lost her phone in Vegas (when Russel supposedly sent the e-mail and we know now he was in vagas himself) anyway wouldnt that mean that Taylor probably asked him to use his phone which means it only lends more to the theory that Taylor in fact sent “abusive text” that lisa did NOT SEE until the Next Morning….Not only that, but Adrienne stated on the reunion last night that Taylor told her about the Abusiveness going on only a few maonths after she met Taylor, but yet on season 1, at Taylors charity card party, Adrienne acted sooo surprise that Taylor was involved or a part of anything like this…..Ya know this is why I believe Brandi more and more about the “gang-up” by Kyle, Taylor and the ring leader Adrienne. At the Tea party,white party and especially the Sur party, Adrienne was the major one that you could tell def. did not believe Taylor, but because Adrienne knew that the viewers were against her cause of goiung after Lisa after her fashion show she had to get Taylor to be on her side, cause she probably didnt want to risk taking flack from the viewers for going after the “DV girl”….I wonder what Adriennes thinking is now toward Taylor knowing that a Majority of the viewers are against Taylor,…and now Adrienne to!!!
Yes – furthermore remember when Paul and Adrienne went to dinner for Paul’s birthday this season and Adrienne was telling Paul that Taylor was now saying that her marriage with Russell had now gotten physically abusive. Paul said he didn’t believe it and they both acted like this was the first time they had heard anything about. If Taylor had been telling Adrienne about this since a few months after the met, this just doesn’t make sense. Also, why does everyone now act like Taylor didn’t lie last season when she said that Adrienne was Kennedy’s godmother.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/02/07/real-housewife-taylor-armstrong-tells-all-or-does-she.html LOL you have to give to it to Diane Diamond for this.
Yes, great article. Been posted 3-4 times now.
I am all confused about the time line again! Was the white party a week after the Chippendales in Vegas? She lost her phone right before the white party, while she & Russel where in Vegas, right? Was Russel in vegas with Taylor for the Chippendales thingy? Was that when the email to Camile was sent?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2097501/Taylor-Armstrong-reveals-late-husband-Russell-claimed-sleeping-like-having-sex-skeleton.html
Holy sh^tballs!!! Incredible recap http://nymag.com/daily/entertainment/2012/02/real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-recap-season-reunion-2.html
It’s positively delicious, isn’t it?
LOL! LOL! LOL!
This had me laughing hysterically and shaking my head in agreement,
“if only because Glanville’s personality is the water that makes the Wicked Witch (Kyle) collapse and shrivel, Madonna-like, into the floor.”
Brillant!
That was greaaaaaat–wow—-
It just occurred to me that Russell may have been surprised about the email in his own name to Camille.
Perhaps when he saw it, and knew Taylor had perhaps logged on under his name and sent it, that is why he angry texted to Taylor that night?
Although it is so convenient that Lisa was around to witness it. Taylor wants the world to know that she reported it to her marital therapist, too. She sure had witnesses that night.
I actually no longer believe Russell wanted to sue Camille, per Brandi’s message last night that he said to her before he died, “I always liked Camille.” Think about it for awhile.
We have been quick to judge him, but what if he was completely submissive to her, like anyone trapped in love with a narcissist, Taylor’s projection re: his character.
Men often fall for women like Taylor, and try to please them endlessly. I think she only had to go Oklahoma on him and he’d give in to her crazy schemes.
Interesting suggestion.
Russell admitted he sent Camille that e mail – both to the entire group and then again in the limo.
Are you implying that Taylor and RA redacted the email together but not sent it for whatever reason. Taylor then decided to send it without telling RA. That is quite possible.
Maybe RA did not want to make a scene in front of the cameras and admitted to it knowing full well it was Taylor. He does not strike me as the type that would make a scene in front of the cameras.
Taylor’s book now has a 1-star average, and her top 100 ranking has fallen from #98 this morning to #112.
I don’t understand Taylor, she said that Russell is behind the fraud and she is in trouble because she was married to him. But I read in the lawsuit that she was actively going around soliciting investments. Also this is not her real name. I also believe thats why she had the housewives over to that awards ceremony. To show them what she does for buisness but then the crap hit the fan before she could try to get them to invest with her. Isn’t it easy to blame everything on Russell now?
IMO, he just wasn’t grifty enough for the Beverly Hills. He went after Lisa and Camille because they had money. Sorry but I don’t believe he was ever honest about anything.
interesting about the awards ceremony. i will re-watch and think that over–nice thought process though–
Hi All.
I was at a dinner party and missed the nonsense that is the RHOBH recap. The only good thing about it from what I can read, is that Brandi stood her ground (go Brandi!).
Bravo loves to show repeats over and over. They should start using said repeats as interrogation techniques. I am sure they are more irritating to criminals than other forms of torture.
I still don’t think Taylor was physically abused. The only evidence we have of Russell’s violence is his predisposition to violence with other women.
I am sorry but no one (I mean no one), “volunteering” for a DV charity, who has witnessed DV with her mother would allow the cycle to continue. Plus she has rich friends begging to help her!
It’s like me volunteering running my group for people with alcohol and drug issues living with a meth dealer. It’s too unbelievable.
I really hope no one buys Taylor’s book and she simple goes away (to jail preferably!). Not only is she talentless, unintelligent, and unattractive, she is not a nice person. She brings zero value to the RHOBH series. She needs to get her pink slip. I am beyond over her and her anus lips.
Speaking of recasting, what does Adrienne bring to the table apart from looking like Cat Woman circa 1990, outlandish clothing, and no personality? If she had no money she would not be there. Recast her please, Bravo.
My disgust with Kyle is getting to the level of disgust I have for KKB and Tamra from the OC. She is classic rewarding of bad behavior. That’s the trend I dispise on Bravo (see Nene and Tre Guidice). I am not surprised that Kyle forced her sister on the show. I have zero shock response to that. It’s par for the course with other selfish, self absorbed, Kyle-esque behavior.
*By the way Kyle, even if you did not hide Brandi’s crutches, you knew where your sister hid them and therfore could have assisted unjured Brandi, out of a toxic situation, a-hole.*
I do not want to watch part three of the reunion if Kim doesn’t apologize. I am sure she won’t. Yes, she does have a drug AND alcohol problem. Yes, yes there are steps in the 12 step process but if you are on national television, you need to own up for your awful behavior.
Anyway, I am going to stay in tonight and try not to watch the most imbecilic of all the Housewives Series- The OC.
Love this post!
*REPOST OF LOST POST FROM 5 MINUTES AGO
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Hi All.
I was at a dinner party and missed the nonsense that is the RHOBH recap. The only good thing about it from what I can read, is that Brandi stood her ground (go Brandi!).
Bravo loves to show repeats over and over. They should start using said repeats as interrogation techniques. I am sure they are more irritating to criminals than other forms of torture.
I still don’t think Taylor was physically abused. The only evidence we have of Russell’s violence is his predisposition to violence with other women.
I am sorry but no one (I mean no one), “volunteering” for a DV charity, who has witnessed DV with her mother would allow the cycle to continue. Plus she has rich friends begging to help her!
It’s like me volunteering running my group for people with alcohol and drug issues living with a meth dealer. It’s too unbelievable.
I really hope no one buys Taylor’s book and she simple goes away (to jail preferably!). Not only is she talentless, unintelligent, and unattractive, she is not a nice person. She brings zero value to the RHOBH series. She needs to get her pink slip. I am beyond over her and her anus lips.
Speaking of recasting, what does Adrienne bring to the table apart from looking like Cat Woman circa 1990, outlandish clothing, and no personality? If she had no money she would not be there. Recast her please, Bravo.
My disgust with Kyle is getting to the level of disgust I have for KKB and Tamra from the OC. She is classic rewarding of bad behavior. That’s the trend I dispise on Bravo (see Nene and Tre Guidice). I am not surprised that Kyle forced her sister on the show. I have zero shock response to that. It’s par for the course with other selfish, self absorbed, Kyle-esque behavior.
*By the way Kyle, even if you did not hide Brandi’s crutches, you knew where your sister hid them and therfore could have assisted unjured Brandi, out of a toxic situation, a-hole.*
I do not want to watch part three of the reunion if Kim doesn’t apologize. I am sure she won’t. Yes, she does have a drug AND alcohol problem. Yes, yes there are steps in the 12 step process but if you are on national television, you need to own up for your awful behavior.
Anyway, I am going to stay in tonight and try not to watch the most imbecilic of all the Housewives Series- The OC.
Sheese. Sorry all but that site has been funky these last few days.
I wonder how many of those 10 bank accounts found in the Russell’s mystery brief case had Taylor’s name on them.
Wow this was a comment over at stoopid housewives. Taylor’s Assistant left the only 1 5 star review. LOL Didn’t she learn from Jill Zarin?
Wow this was a comment over at stoopid housewives. Taylor’s Assistant left the only 1 5 star review. LOL Didn’t she learn from Jill Zarin?
Reply OMG Taylor’s assistant as tray refers to her as Julie, http://www.amazon.com/reader/1451677715/ref=rdr_sb_li_hist_2&state=01111 and just so happens the person who wrote the only 5 star review is named JULIE…
0 of 80 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars A Lesson Learned, February 7, 2012
By
Juliana W. – See all my reviews
This review is from: Hiding from Reality (Kindle Edition)
I had my doubts about Taylor Armtrong an her late husband for that matter. But now, after reading her memoir, it all makes perfect sense to me. She was an insecure girl from Oklahoma who constantly ran from her past because she was ashamed. She fell into an abusive relationship with a man that she loved, and went through the abuse cycle because of it. Her story is a tragedy, but most importantly a lesson of how she survived and other girls can do the same.
I couldn’t sleep so decided to have a late night read, and I’m very happy that I did. I hope Taylor’s journey leads her and Kennedy to a happy state of life, as they both deserve it.
Did you read any of the comments on this site? I c+p’ed this review this morning, and several of us stated it had to come from somebody close to Taylor. Not trying to be rude.. just curious.
Juliana =/= Julie, btw. I’m just saying…yes, its a possible nickname, but I don’t see it as damning evidence that the review was posted by T’s assistant. Even Jillzy was smart enough to use a completely different name, not a variation of it.
Her is assisant real name is Julianna. Hold on. I’ll find it.
Oh, I did not know that. My bad!
I am sorry if this post twice.
I was over at stoopid hw site.
Look in Prolgue
of book preview as Taylor (and how she describes her Bel-Air neighborhood.. In her black Escalade… Around Greiving Family members.. (I added this not on original comment)
A comment from SH site. Didn’t she learn from Jill Zarin?
OMG Taylor’s assistant as tray refers to her as Julie, http://www.amazon.com/reader/1451677715/ref=rdr_sb_li_hist_2&state=01111 and just so happens the person who wrote the only 5 star review is named JULIE…
0 of 80 people found the following review helpful:
5.0 out of 5 stars A Lesson Learned, February 7, 2012
By
Juliana W. – See all my reviews
This review is from: Hiding from Reality (Kindle Edition)
I had my doubts about Taylor Armtrong an her late husband for that matter. But now, after reading her memoir, it all makes perfect sense to me. She was an insecure girl from Oklahoma who constantly ran from her past because she was ashamed. She fell into an abusive relationship with a man that she loved, and went through the abuse cycle because of it. Her story is a tragedy, but most importantly a lesson of how she survived and other girls can do the same.
I couldn’t sleep so decided to have a late night read, and I’m very happy that I did. I hope Taylor’s journey leads her and Kennedy to a happy state of life, as they both deserve it.
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I’m on my PC not my phone….. What is this “Older Comments” “Newer Comments” at the bottom of the screen.Not sure I’m liking it. It makes it hard to “find” comments and/or search for comments. Did they change the layout of the page? Is anybody else getting this?
Also I’m still getting “Your request timed out. Please retry the request.”
Damm you Troll/Mole that did this! ! !
Yes, that is the new format for now. Lynn commented on an earlier page that they are trying to fix it.
Hi All.
I was at a dinner party and missed the nonsense that is the RHOBH recap. The only good thing about it from what I can read, is that Brandi stood her ground (go Brandi!).
Bravo loves to show repeats over and over. They should start using said repeats as interrogation techniques. I am sure they are more irritating to criminals than other forms of torture.
I still don’t think Taylor was physically abused. The only evidence we have of Russell’s violence is his predisposition to violence with other women.
I am sorry but no one (I mean no one), “volunteering” for a DV charity, who has witnessed DV with her mother would allow the cycle to continue. Plus she has rich friends begging to help her!
It’s like me volunteering running my group for people with alcohol and drug issues living with a meth dealer. It’s too unbelievable.
I really hope no one buys Taylor’s book and she simple goes away (to jail preferably!). Not only is she talentless, unintelligent, and unattractive, she is not a nice person. She brings zero value to the RHOBH series. She needs to get her pink slip. I am beyond over her and her anus lips.
Speaking of recasting, what does Adrienne bring to the table apart from looking like Cat Woman circa 1990, outlandish clothing, and no personality? If she had no money she would not be there. Recast her please, Bravo.
My disgust with Kyle is getting to the level of disgust I have for KKB and Tamra from the OC. She is classic rewarding of bad behavior. That’s the trend I dispise on Bravo (see Nene and Tre Guidice). I am not surprised that Kyle forced her sister on the show. I have zero shock response to that. It’s par for the course with other selfish, self absorbed, Kyle-esque behavior.
*By the way Kyle, even if you did not hide Brandi’s crutches, you knew where your sister hid them and therfore could have assisted unjured Brandi, out of a toxic situation, a-hole.*
I do not want to watch part three of the reunion if Kim doesn’t apologize. I am sure she won’t. Yes, she does have a drug AND alcohol problem. Yes, yes there are steps in the 12 step process but if you are on national television, you need to own up for your awful behavior.
Anyway, I am going to stay in tonight and try not to watch the most imbecilic of all the Housewives Series- The OC
There is a poll on Bravo’s website about Brandi…GO VOTE!
Would you call Brandi “Angry Spice”?
Yes, she came out of the gate with an ax to grind 14%
Nope, she was just defending herself (and Lisa). She’s more “Loyal Spice.” 79%
Personally I think “Profanity Spice” is more appropriate. 7%
Total votes: 6800
They need to post a poll “Would you call Kyle a C U Next Tuesday?”
It’s totally relevant to what happened on the reunion don’t you think?
That would be one poll I would actually vote on!
Please tell me where I can vote, “HELL YES!”
Dear Lynn IT person,
I know you are reading this. I appreciate your hard work. However, the site not only is acting up, but was changed for the worst. On a webpage like this, Scrolling up and down is the easiest way to read and find messages. Flipping pages from Older to Newer (bookstyle) makes us the reader miss comments. Please restore them back to Scroll up and down.
Dear Lynn IT person and I mean this with respect. If going back to the way this page was is a little too difficult for you to do or out of your expertise, please find somebody or relinquish the controls to a higher level technician.
Thank you.
I agree. It tl took less time waiting to load the page, than to now flip through all these pages looking for comments. Did I mention I missed work today?
Yesterday I couldn’t get on at all & today I’m timed out w/each comment & I didn’t realize at first I had to hit next comments. We’ll just keep our fingers crossed.
It seems that in an effort to increase how many comments can be posted on this blog, it will actually cause a decrease in comments. The new and improved format makes it far too time consuming to jump back and forth thru page after page of comments just to read or post a comment.
Where the hell is Santa when you need him!!!!!!
Thank you ValleyVal.
Dear Lynn IT person, what she said
Thank you & good luck, WTFlynn, Lisa
BBL can’t get anything to post.
I don’t know where this comment is going to end up and/or if it has been brought up. But her it goes…
I’m starting to think the Kyle and Mauricio did steale the house on Palm Beach from Kim or Kim got poorly compensated for her share. We never really got an explanation from Mauricio or Kyle unless I miss it.
Why doesn’t Mauricio’s mom Dr. Estella Sneider,Ph. who is a family counselor and has degrees in psychology warn Kyle about Taylor???????
This Lady is my understanding a counselor on Spanish TV… Why can’t see figure Taylor out of all the cast Kyle is the closest to Taylor so, I’m sure Dr Estella sees her quite often… Just saying…
I think Kyle said something to the effect “We did not want a partner” regarding Kim coming bak to pay the money and get she share in the house back.
Second try:
IIRC, Kyle said somethong like, “We didn’t want a partner” when Kim tried to give the money back and get her share in the house back.
Yes, it seems rather suspect given that Mauricio is a real estate agent and could have easily drawn up a contract that Kim didn’t fully understand and resulted in Kyle and Mauricio having full ownership.
I know Kim doesn’t seem completely coherent at times but why would she make this claim? Something doesn’t add up for sure.
And, if my sister wanted back into ownership of our mother’s house, that was inherited by all of us in the first place, I would gladly allow her to resume ownership. Odd’s are Kim did not even realize she relinquished ownership to begin with.
Yeah I don’t think Kim could make sense of the back of a cereal box, probably for years, so anything is possible in terms of what went down with that house. It’s probably a situation where there is blame on both sides…Kyle lies so much though, that the truth will probably never be known.
I gave them (Kyle and Mauricio) the benefit of the doubt at first. Now that they are showing their true colors… not so much. Something smells here and I think Kim may have been right all along.
I don’t understand exactly why they are being rude to Lisa…Didn’t Mauricio sell Lisa’s pink mansion? He must have made a mint of a commission off of that. And the same thing happened last year when Kyle attacked Camille. It must be SUCH a pain to be married to someone like Kyle who is constantly offending your best clients, what a strange marriage.
Yeah, but this past September, he stopped working for Kyle’s BIL (at Hilton & Hyland real estate agency) and went out and started his own agency. Perhaps this is the first step to him removing himself from the Witchards.
Okay, seriously. I need a GPS to post a comment here Today!!!
LOL!
Am I the only one interested in RhWOC? I’m sure it will be one hot mess but I have to watch.
Read Dana’s blog. She is more than a little irritating. Taylor’s book isn’t going to save any lives unless some poor DV uses it to clock her abuser.
I think she is right about it being hard to make friends after a certain age. Of course it’s always hard to make friends when you act desperate no matter what your age. Dana comes across as not being authentic with her bragging and exagerating and desperate with her sucking up to the Richard sisters and Camille.
When she’s not irritating me, I feel kind of sorry for her. As others have said before she hitched her self to the wrong star (Kyle, Kim and Taylor) instead of Brandi who would have been grateful for the support. Sorry Dana your 15 minutes are just about up.
14 minutes and counting.
Until what?
Duh, got it
Hey…is the blog fixed?!?! Woohoo!!!
Thank You Lynn and Lynn’s IT person!
I don’t think so…
No? It seems like all the comments are on one page for me and I don’t time out anymore. Not for you? I was so hoping this was fixed.
Yes, thank you so much for all your hard work.
Taylor and RA redacted the email together but not sent it for whatever reason. I think IMN is suggesting that Taylor decided to send it without telling RA. That is quite possible.
I think RA did not want to make a scene in front of the cameras and admitted to it knowing full well it must have been Taylor. I seriously doubted that he would have called her right then and there on the spot.
Okay!!! This comment was in reply to IceMeNot and WCW… again. I think I need a GPS to post on this blog today….
@Trudie: Thank you for your post up thread.
Thank goodness the blog is fixed. Thanks IT person and Lynn.
I agree.
Ugh, low and behold, part II of the reunion is on. I don’t want to watch it but probably will. I want to see first hand how rude Kyle is, and stupid Adrienne is.
Thanks Lynn and Lynn IT person…
Yea! Thank you Lynn and IT person. We are all on the same page. Very nice.
Ok, to take my mind off this stressful, catty, reunion, I want people’s opinion:
Which plastic surgeries do you think each BH cast member had done?
I think the most naturally (born) beautiful one is Lisa, followed by Brandi.
Kyle:nose job and probably boob job
Camille: nose job and boob job
Adrienne: the works
Taylor: the works
Lisa looks the most natural but I imagine she’s had some work
Brandi: boob job
Kim: same as sister
Lisa says that her boobs are real which surprises me. They look great. I was thinking Lisa had work then remembered that she was an actress in the 80′s and 90′s. Any major work she had done, had to be a while ago. I think all Lisa has is fillers.
Adrienne look like she had a full on face lift.
I think Camille is attractive and has a sick body. Even with all the surgeries I don’t think she is stunning.
nope, she already needs an eyelift, her eyes are sagging, so I think she probably has only had fillers in her face so far—
Who Camille or Lisa?
Whatever “The works” was for Adrienne they made her look like Cuchi-Cuchi Charo!
I’m re-watching BH reunion part two. When Taylor rattled off DV stats, it reminded of the scene in Erin Brockovich where Julie Roberts rattles off tons of numbers to dissuade her neighbor’s interest. Thought it was really strange. Although I shouldn’t be surprised.
LOL! I was getting so confused looking for the “see newer comments” link and couldn’t find it! Duh! Glad they’re all one 1 pg again
I think Brandi and “Taylor” have cheek implants.
This didn’t post where it was suppose to so I’m still having computer problems.
Not you it’s the site.
Taylor definately has cheek implants – Brandi has beautiful bone structure.
I do too.
Hi, Is the the page/blog we’re on? Thx.
http://wp.me/p1Knfy-1dx
New page RHOOC Let’s Chat!
Sorry it’s late!
I like that Gretchen does what she wants and ignores Slade.
Heather APPEARS to be the only one on the show with any class and means (aka she is the only one out of all the other losers I would actually cast if I was in charge of casting for the OC).
These other women are all so low rent it’s not even funny. These Tamra’s and Marlo’s of the world with their designer labels. They look like hookers to be honest. Not wealthy women.
Got it both times!
I’m not sure what is truth or fiction.
I just think Brandi’s reminiscience of talking to Russell after he moved out was a much needed clue.
Did anyone notice the HUGE deflection by Taylor to redirect the viewer’s attention?
That’s her MO. I noticed at the Dinner Party from Hell at Camille’s that when her and Kim were getting into it, Taylor starts screaming enough, enough and stands up. She did not want Kim to spill the beans on her.