LynnNChicago Bethenny Ever After
Bryn Hoppy might just be the cutest kid on the face of the earth! She was determined to hold her own popsicle, I remember those days. It’s hell on earth for an OCD mother who doesn’t want their clothes to get dirty but you have to let them do their thing! I think I just about overloaded on cute when she said, “hola” and “gracias” to the staff down in Mexico.
It’s Bethenny’s birthday celebration and it is quite a different celebration from last year’s fancy birthday party with dozens of guests that were clearly there for the cameras. Alex McCord and Ramona Singer were there with their husbands and Bethenny had a breakdown. This year, a trip to Mexico with her staff was more like it. If only there wasn’t that small problem of the constant arguing with her husband.
I was thrilled that we had no shopping trips for furniture or meetings with designers for the new apartment! The resort in Mexico looked amazing and the Hoppy’s seemed to enjoy their time there.
It was interesting though that the one day the cameras met up with Jason and Bethenny in 
their hotel suite to find them arguing, Jason avoided the camera and simply decided to stay in the hotel room with Bryn while Bethenny had lunch with her friend / babysitter Veronica. As the two ladies discussed Bethenny’s issues with her husband she decided to call him and ask him to come and join them for lunch. A peace offering extended to Jason but instead he came halfway to their lunch spot and sent for Bethenny, once again refusing to be on camera. Jason may have forgotten that Bethenny wore a microphone and while we couldn’t see him, we could hear him. He might also forget that even keeping his voice down wouldn’t stop Bravo! They put his words on the screen just in case you couldn’t hear them.
Bethenny finally convinced Jason to join her for lunch and they continued to banter a bit but managed to get through lunch while RaRa (Veronica) took care of little Bryn as was originally planned. ”is that your favorite salad?” Jason asked his wife. ”Is that what we’ve come to, discussing salad?” It sure looks that way but as Jason pointed out, you have to start somewhere.
I don’t know why, but I hate to see this couple argue. I much prefer it when they have 
little funny digs and laugh afterward, we see a bit of that on tonight’s episode but it’s brought down by the tension.
I was surprised to learn that this couple is only now working on their will, particularly since they seem pretty responsible especially when it comes to their baby girl Bryn. Parents need to have their wishes for their children in writing, it is critical. I’m a bit surprised at their choice of a caretaker for Bryn should anything happen to them, Bethenny’s good friend Veronica (RaRa) was chosen and I realize that she spends a lot of time with Bryn but why not Julie? Or Jason’s parents? Obviously Jason’s folks are getting up their in age and it was Jason who didn’t want to put such a huge burden on his parents but no one would love that kid more than her grandparents. I am sure RaRa is an excellent choice too and we’re told that she’s been friends with Bethenny for many years but I don’t remember seeing her in past seasons. Anyone else?
Bethenny’s birthday, she and Jason go for a couple’s massage and it’s a bit strange. I thought that usually meant two massage therapists give both of them a massage at the same time. Maybe Bethenny really is that cheap but they had one masseuse and the one who happened to be waiting for their turn actually had to help with their spouse’s massage, that’s just wrong! They could have stayed home and massaged each other! Ok, it’s sexy, if you say so.
Back on the beach Bethenny haggled with a salesman who was selling what looked like 
large pieces of fabric for $60 each. Bethenny was able to talk him into accepting $100 for three. Jason explained that his wife is “frugal” and loves to make a deal!
All dressed up and ready for Bethenny’s birthday dinner on the beach, Jason and Bryn give Bethenny an absolutely gorgeous necklace for her birthday, then they head out to join the ladies of Skinnygirl Inc for dinner.
Julie presented Bethenny with a priceless book of memories, a photo book of their life together over the past three years and all of the amazing things that Julie got to witness being in Bethenny’s life. All of Bethenny’s team wrote lovely messages to her in the book and she cried as she read them out loud. It was very sweet and they all got up and danced the night away…
Next week we’re still on the Mexican vacation with more arguing between Bethenny and Jason, it’s sad to watch. It seems that they can’t seem to forget the past and one of their biggest issues is trust. As Bethenny explained it isn’t about infidelity, it’s about trust that the other person will always be there and always have each other’s back. It seems to me that Jason doesn’t trust that Bethenny won’t throw him under the bus on camera and she’s afraid that he won’t want to put up with her anymore and he will leave.
If Jason divorces her, would he write a tell-all book or go on talk shows bashing Bethenny? Would he sue her for half of her money? That pre-nup is still dogging them in this marriage. This is the type of trust issues that exist in this marriage and it’s really sad.
Bethenny purchasing wares on the beach with the Producer’s commentary:
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Morning all.
So happy for the Rancics!!!!
Bethenny is a control freak. Dr. Amador. HELP! Using Jason’s parents age is an excuse as ridiculous as it gets. Jason’s parents can hire help to help them with the kids. This is why B shouldn’t have a talk show where she gives advice. She can barely manage her personal life. Why should I listen to her?
I understand Jason’s frustration and he is a fault he married her. She is just too controlling. He better no work for her or he will lose the last rat of independence he has. Everything else, she controls and commands.
*I didn’t mean “rat” I meant “straw” ( Stupid iPhone!)
VV,
Isn’t it the parents choice whom to live they kid with in case something happens to them? Do one kids have to necessarily go to a relative?
Besides, Jason mentioned he won’t want to put that kind of a burden on his parents.
I didn’t hear it come out of Jason’s mouth. I heard Bethenny say that Jason mentioned that to her. Now, we know Jason does not like to argue in front of the cameras. so, who knows if that statement is true.
You are right. It’s their kid and they can leave her with whomever they want. I doubt Jason had any saying on it. B was the one doing all the talking and decision and reasoning as to why leave Bryn with her friend/coworker.
Didn’t Jason agree his parent’s aren’t a great choice?
I think it’s legitimate. I love my parents, they adore my daughter, my daughter adores them, and my mom actually watches my daughter while I’m at work every day, but my will says my daughter goes to one of my brothers.
Maybe Jason’s parents have health problems we don’t know about or maybe they discussed it with Jason’s parents before they made the decision. I’m sure there was a lot of discussion about it before the decision was made. Neither Jason nor Bethenny have siblings they can consider. The odds of both of them being deceased at the same time are pretty slim anyway, but it is important to have made that decision just in case.
Micheal Jacksons mother is in her 80′s raising his children. It can and has been done before. I found it very odd that Jason would agree to Bethenny’s friend over his blood? His parents, no less? Why would Bethenny take that away from Bryn? I spent alot of my childhood with my grandmother, and I will always cherish those memories. I wonder if Bethenny’s grandparents were in the picture. I have yet to hear her speak of them. What about aunts and uncles?
On a different note, why do I always tear up when I watch this show? Whatever Bethenny’s mother has done/or not done has damaged her, but she has to know that she can change the cycle with Bryn.
There are no aunts or uncles. Bethenny is an only child and Jason’s brother is deceased. I would never judge anyone’s choice for who they pick to care for their child. Under the circumstances, I don’t think it’s an odd choice at all.
Raising kids with tons of Nanny’s lol
I don’t think it is an odd choice at all. Of course, we are speaking in hypotheticals here, but if a child lost both parents why wouldn’t you want that child to be raised by someone close to the parents own age? By having the grandparents raise them, you are opening the child up to more loss at a young age. Even if the grandparents hire someone to help them, it isn’t quite the same thing. Veronica does not seem like the type of person who would keep Brynn from her grandparents; I am sure that they would remain a big part of her life.
When my husband and I made plans for our children, we didn’t even consider our parents as guardians and our parents weren’t hurt by our decision. They love our children, but are past any desire to raise more children.
ITA with you Trudie. Grandparents raising a teenager, wow now that’s a recipe for disaster! My husband & I chose my niece (she’s in her 30′s now) for our son a few years ago. Of course we asked her & her husband, & they were actually very happy to accept. Now that he’s 18, I would still want them in his life to help make career choices, help manage his money, etc. My mom was in her 70′s when my son was a baby, so totally unrealistic to expect her to raise him. Thank God we are still here, but it’s a situation that all parents must think about.
Does anyone really think that Veronica would not make Bryn’s grandparents part of her life? I think she would, and after watching her with Bryn last night I think B & Jason made a good choice.
Yeah. I’m grown & still waiting for my mother to have guardians for me. Kidding. Haha.
Kathrine Jackson is probably to old to take effective care of Michael’s kids. Not only that but Michael was a broken person, and his family helped to create a lot of his emotional problems. That would be his parents, his siblings, Diana Ross and the Berry Gordy’s Motown machine. We are only as sick as our secrets and the Jackson’s had more then their share. I read an item the other day that Janet Jackson is getting ready to take parental control over the kids. I think that would be the best place for them. She is the only one that has the personal income, so she does not have to leech off MJ’s children’s estate. The other family members are just scary. IMO.
I would never have considered making my in-laws my son’s guardians even though they are wonderful people who love the stuffing out of him. When he was younger he would have been too much for them. Now he’s 7 and more independent but he still needs someone to wrestle around with who will take him on adventures. My in-laws are not those people.
However, one of the big factors in choosing the guardians was, “Will they encourage and facilitate a close relationship with his grandparents and other family members?” It’s not something everyone, especially a non-family member, would do.
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Age is super important IMO. I guess Julie was moving to another city so being godparent wasn’t the major factor? Or Veronica is better friends with Jason’s parents maybe?
Lynn did you see the twitter drama that “JILL” created for herself yesterday?
Well when Bethenny’s show was on….JIll tweeted :
“I’m watching a TV show realizing how lucky and grateful I am to be married to Mr Bobby Zarin. the love of my life.my biggest supporter.”
Then a viewer tweets to Bethenny how jill is pathetic and thinks no one will notice her subliminal tweet and then B tweets that she is desparate.
Then moron Jill tweets that she was watching dr. phill on tivo and she was not watching B.
“no I was NOT watching @bethenny show..BUT I was watching TIVO @drphil but WHAT HAPPENED on her show that brought such strong reaction?”
She goes back and forth on this and tweets:
“Maybe after tonights “drama” I will grow to 500k? It has worked for lesser dialogues?”
She alludes that her and her sister may have a project coming up so i am assuming that she is anticipating some type of publicity for latest stunt. Jill Zarin is truly pathetic in all levels. I really feel sorry for this broad….i take it back…..feel more sorry for Bobby.
These exchange between Between B and RH was telling.
@Real_Housewives: I guess when you have 100x more money than @Jillzarin, jill will tweet what she thinks are subliminal tweets about @Bethenny, nice try JZ
@Bethenny: People are desperate. @Real_Housewives
another interesting tweet from Jillzy.
@Jillzarin: @Vancitygirl03 very sad you and some people always go to dark place. If I want to make a dig, I’ll make a dig. I haven’t in 3 years.
She is so transparent.
Jill who?? Ohhhhhhh, you mean that redheaded chick with the book.
She wrote a book?
Well she does have a project coming up w/hairstylist Oscar Blandi. They will be rep a product i use called Viviscal, a supplement for hair loss. Lifes2good is the company & they have a new product Viviscal Professional, you have to get it from hair salons, dermatologist office. Tabatha Coffy reps the original Viviscal. Jill is saying she has harmonal hair loss.
Hi Mel,
I don’t usually take 8 hours to reply, sorry about that. Yes I did see Jilzy’s drama. She’s obviously lying as we all know she was referring to BEA when she tweeted that she had such a great husband.
I’m sure it’s easy for the Zarin’s to get along, he leaves her alone as long as she leaves him alone, they both lead separate lives and do whatever the hell they want to do. Neither interferes in the other’s life.
The difference is Bethenny and Jason are in love and they want to live a life together and be happy together.
Jill cares only about Twitter followers. She buys them and then tries to play it off as if she earned them due to the show airing around the world. Every time something happens she mentions her twitter followers as if she’s smarter than the rest of us. Unfortunately too many people do believe her, but for the majority of us, we’re smarter than she thinks we are.
You just have to pity her now, don’t you? The desperation is unreal.
I think Jason is having problems dealing with the fact Bethanny is worth so much more money than he is……I think they will be fine if he could set his “jealousy” aside. I am sure that Bethanny feels that she can call some of the shots cuz of the money too ….So I am sure they need some major counseling on this issue.
I think Brynn should go to Jason’s Parents….with her friend as a backup. I would also leave control of all the assets with another person to protect for Brynn with
an allowance per year for her care.
It think it would be a slap in the face, leaving Bryn with a friend instead of loving, doting grandparents. I’m not understanding this decision.
I agree. It’s Bethenny’s decision and Jason just is going along with it. Jason’s parents would give this child so much love. Bethenny has to control everything. If this was the first Jason’s parents heard about this, it must have been such a slap in the face.
I don’t think it’s a slap in the face. Bethenny and Jason were almost 40 when they had Bryn. Neither has siblings. I think they were making a serious, responsible choice. It’s not a symbolic gesture. The odds are that Jason’s parents will pass away before them.
The way Js parents are about the loss of their son, the need to see J & Bryn often, I think they would be hurt they were not chosen. They take those relationships so to the heart like they’ll never see them again when they visit. I understand Js rational because of their age. That’s a hard decision.
I do not think that Bethenny wants to leave the child with Jason’s family. She really does not trust them at this time. I do not think she has given them much of a chance. Maybe she will change her mind as time goes by. They are warm and caring and that is like another planet for Bethenny. IMO.
yeah it’s really sad.
it’s as if he feels castrated.
it was sad last night when he took Bryn and immediately she starts screaming and Bethenny was freaked out, you can tell.
I am glad she is ending the show. Bethenny had a total fruit loop for a mother and she never got the validation she needed, the mirroring, the affirmation. It appears in this season she is putting her wounded heart out there to get it from the public. I understand those needs linger but it is not a good forum to do so.
And it also could be that Jason is verbally abusive and as such he is triggering the bejesus out of her. I mean, the relationship started with ‘get the stick out of your ass’ or something of that nature. I am sure it caught her off guard enough to interest her, but that was a forewarning.
And we saw Jason admit last night that when Bethenny wants to talk he often attacks.
Yes, he admitted he is not a good listener and B is.
Yes. I liked that he said that and that she is a good listener. I think the therapy has helped her put things into perspective and helped her to get to what is really being said underneath the emotions.
Is it any wonder he feels castrated though? When have we actually seen him get anything he wants on camera? It seems like it’s all Bethenny’s world and he’s just living in it. She has a STRONG personality. Yes, he knew that getting into it, but B does not seem to compromise at all. It seems like, to me, that whenever they do argue and Jason states something he wants, Bethenny then shuts down, starts calling herself name, and playing a victim – that she’s damaged and unable to be loved. I’m SURE this infuriates Jason (It would me) so he snaps and just echos the very things SHE SAID.
Bethenny needs to find a new shrink, someone who will help her to get OVER her past. She’s 41. It’s time to let go of some of her childhood. It really is. She needs to live in the present and a new shrink could help her with that. She also NEEDS to step away from the cameras for awhile. I honestly think she ramps up fights for cameras. I really do (even if she doesn’t realize she is).
They need privacy. Filming the first few years of marriage was foolish. Sure, we all wanted to see that, but the first few years of marriage you’re just getting to know each other’s habits and quirks. It’s anxiety-riddled enough without worrying about ratings and entertainment.
I’d like to see Bethenny start living a simpler, stress free life, but she won’t.
Sadly I give their marriage one year after the camera’s shut off. Bethenny will leave him.
yeah, I think that those folks on these shows have two realities, off camera and on camera. They just need to have one for a while…but she planned on this being the last season long ago so maybe they will make it.
Lynn,
I agree that Bethenny’s and Jason’s arguments overshadowed their trip. It’s sad to see this happening on a relaxing vacation. They should have hashed out their issues at home without the Bravo cameras.
Bethenny should cut down on her projects (talk show) outside of SkinnyGirl. She needs to work on making her marriage a happy one with the cameras shut OFF.
I so agree.
What I see in the exchanges between Bethenny and Jason is that they are both really competitive. Lots of power struggles going on between these two. They need to learn to let go – be on the same side – struggle together towards the things that they both want – support each other. I think that Bethenny is so accustomed to fighting for herself that she doesn’t know how to relax and accept being in a loving, supportive relationship. And Jason’s pride is being hurt by Bethenny’s aggression and defensiveness and he’s striking back. It will take a lot of work for these two to learn to be together in a loving way – I hope they can get past this. They need a really good couples therapist.
Good morning all,
LC, I agree with everything you said. I believe that there is someone for everyone and Bethenny had the personality she has long before meeting Jason, just as Jason had his. They did not get to know one another well enough prior to Bethanny getting pregnant and the two getting married. Hopefully therapy will help this couple, because watching them is painful.
The fact that Jason still has his job was an eye opener for me – is he having a problem with Bethenny’s success? She has asked him to come on board and help run her empire together! A pre nup is still causing problems? Seems to me that it is Jason who may be having issues that need therapy. As for who will raise Bryn and how the money fits into that scenerio is both personal and complicated and the easy choice (Jason’s parents) may not be the best one.
Jason on the previews finally accepts the fact that he is frustrated because at his age (40) he is not professionally where he wanted to be.
This to me is the elephant in the room that is creating most of the conflict. Jason has not been able to verbalize it before so instead has been throwing digs and being mean to Bethenny in an effort to regain some control.
I see how Jason feels bad that he hasn’t reach the level of proffesional success that Bethenny has, Jason said that most of the arguments have happened in the last 9 months, which ties perfectly with the sale of SGC, I think Jason didn’t feel so conscious of the fact before the sale, but with the sale and the money, he is feeling much more insecure.
I think Jason feels like economically Bethenny doesn’t need him and she can leave him at any time, he even said that he is afraid that she will get tired of the arguing and will give up, but I think that Jason fails to realize that if he would take care of Bethenny emotionally, she would never leave him, ever, she adores him.
It is funny how open minded we think we are, but really we are not, we (as a society) still believe in the old stereotypes where the man is suppose to bring the most money to feel validated as the bread winner. Jason is fighting with himself but also with what he perceives are the expectations of other people from him.
The same way that Bethenny struggles with her fear of being unlovable, Jason struggles with his fear that people are judging him because he is not as succesful as she is.
The good part of last episode? It was loud and clear that they love each other, they just have to find a better way to deal and communicate their insecurities, I know easier said than done.
Beautifully said, Cartwheels!
ITA with everything you said. Plus he seemed to be raised with parents who fit the stereotypical husband/ wife roles (husband makes the $, wife stays at home with kids) so this reversal might be emotionally confusing to him. Whether he realizes it or not.
On the flip side… Bethenny needs to treat Jason as an equal. Jason gave up his only solace in that new apartment… his room. He gave it up for her closet. In his mind, this apartment is hers so she can do whatever she wants. But… in reality a husband and wife should share everything. It isn’t her money… it’s their money. It isn’t her apartment… it’s their apartment. I would hate to feel like a guest in my own home just because I didn’t make all the money.
Thank god I have a wonderful boyfriend who shares everything with me. Even though he is the primary breadwinner… I feel financially equal in the relationship. It is our money and he doesn’t get more in the house because he makes more money. That would never fly! LOL
PS… With that much money, I do think Bethenny needs a prenup in case of divorce. Divorce is when sharing goes out the window.
I saw on Twitter where Bethenny today referred to Bryn as her ‘bumble bee.’ Bryn is ‘their’ bumble bee. She needs to use those words ‘our’ and ‘us’ and ‘we’ a lot more to let Jason know he is her partner, full stop.
The “We” is a huge challenge for her, because she hasn’t yet mastered developing her sense of “me” – just being comfortable with who she is. I agree that Bethenny needs some more intensive individual therapy and she and Jason need to go to a couples therapist. I think they could work it out, but this show is not helping them.
I don’t see that as a red flag. I constantly refer to “my son” or “my daughter” and I have been married 30 years.
I wrote that becuz I often referred to ‘my son’ and ‘my house.’ And I am divorced. But your post shows that is not a correct indicator
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ITA; so glad you posted this. On this episode and what we saw of the next, Jason is more open than ever before in his headshot comments. There is no need for him to expose his feelings on air if he is as honest as this in the commentaries. Both sides are out there now. And I agree, he loves her a lot and she loves him but needs his emotional support. Money can never buy that for her, and he is the one she wants and needs it from. She chose him cuz he is so stable and sound; if she could trust leaning on that, she will never leave him. No one else is as valuable to her as Jason except Bryn.
Excellent points. Some men are ok with taking a back seat to their wives success and some are not. Jason is not and it is hard for him. Filming is obviously become a PITA for him and he is trying to avoid the cameras.
EXCELLENT, beautifully presented. Exactly what I was thinking and couldn’t put it together this well. I don’t know what the answer is here. I don’t know what Jason does for a living, but apparently he does it well, so maybe some of those talents can be transferred to Bethenny’s company if he is really good at what he does. Appears that way as he took car of the distribution issue in Canada. I also agree they love each other very much. I think you are absolutely right about Jason falling into the sterotypical husband takes care of wife; neither one of them could ever imagine Skinny Girl taking off like that. Count in the fact they barely really knew one another, got pregnant, got married, business took off making Bethenny an instant millionaire, new baby…throw all of this into the fix equals some disastrous relationship terrain. We all know the honeymoon phase passes over very quickly once you get married, because everyday life intrudes very quickly. Add that to all their huge changes…no wonder they are fighting. As much as I will miss Bethenny’s show (most of the time I like it, other times I am like this is too deep), I am glad she is giving it up. Too hard on their relationship. The new show will not focus on them. Now if they could only get past the trust issues of each of them leaving the other, they will have it made.
With regard to leaving Bryn with her friend…I have some issues with that as I think Jason’s parents are salt of the earth type of people who would give Bryn all the love on this earth. However I am not the parent and I have no doubt they have their reasons about this, so I am not going to stand in judgment. Erizzle put up some good points above and I think she has made some very valid points, which I agree with.
The prenup didn’t come until after she made her millions. That would send up red flags to me too, if I were Jason. I pre-nup should be written BEFORE you marry, not after. He went all in with her and now she’s throw this BUT IF WE DON’T MAKE IT, I DON’T WANT YOU TO GET ANY OF MY SUCCESS. That took away from the team of marriage and she changed the rules of the game they set up mid stream.
It was unfair and incredibly humiliating.
It’s a post-nup. If it’s entered into after the wedding it’s called a post-nup and operates the same as a pre-nup except there are no pre-marital assets unless those are agreed upon. Her deal would be a marital asset by most pre-nup specifications as it was earned after the wedding.
That’s not accurate. Jason signed the pre-nup before the wedding. Sure she hadn’t made the deal with Beam yet but she was already headed for HUGE success, anyone could see that.
He was with her when the deal struck but he had signed the pre-nup already, it had never been mentioned before this season because it didnt’ seem to bother him before this season, now that the big deal is done, it seems as if it is bothering him.
I agree. Also we are seeing the real Bethenny who everyone is saying is too hard on Jason, however, we are not seeing the real Jason. I have a feeling he’s not as emasculated as some seem to think. I honestly don’t get that feeling. Sometimes Jason lets us see a glimpse and it seems as if he gives it right back to her.
Are you kidding me? She can’t even let him take a shit without her approval…LITERALLY.
I want to wish Nancy a Happy Belated Birthday, I hope you had a wonderful day!
I want to wish Nancy a “Happy Belated Birthday”! I hope you had a wonderful day.
Lynn-I’m confused-did Jaq say that Dina and Teresa are not friends? In the interview you have it quoted as if she said it but then her tweet says she didn’t say it.
It is not a big deal if she did say it but its kind of a big deal if she is denying it.
Wacky Jacky has a habit of making bold and/or very rude statements and then saying that is not what she said or what she meant or that she was in a bad place at the time. LOL must be something in that brackish water….
yep.. I noticed Lynn just used her tweet above to clear up the misunderstanding. Lynn did not say that she made a mistake… she just put the tweet in there to clear up the conversation. Lynn is a better person than me. If someone told me something and then denied it… I wouldn’t be so polite.
Right??? Me either!!!!
Lynn does a great interview – and she doesn’t change what a person says to her. I appreciate that!
I agree-I dont always like the people she interviews but I always love the interview in itself!!
I agree… some people call Lynn biased (I call it giving her opinion) but no one can claim that about her interviews.
Yes, congrats to Guiliana and Bill Rancic. When I learned the news yesterday, I swear it was like hearing great news about a friend. Watching her reality show, knowing what she and Bill have been through, I literally teared up when I learned that they will have a child.
Wow, what a contrast between that couple and Bethenny & Jason. I realize that Guiliana grew up in a loving household. But I am so sick of Bethenny not allowing herself to be happy. My lord, you would think she grew up in foster homes or in homeless shelters. Yes, she had horrible parents. But she now has everything she’s ever wanted.
They are in such desperate need of couples counseling. If Jason feels threatened, then he needs to get help dealing with that. But Bethenny certainly is not an easy person at all to live with, work with. Even when they were at the meeting for her apartment (and yes, I said her not theirs), she had to say the apartment that skinny girl bought.
I was such a fan of hers in the past. So difficult to watch how she picks at everything. Does she know how lucky she is??? Look at the resort she was at. When my sons were Bryn’s age, I didn’t have a nanny, a glammy, assistants to help.
I could keep going…………..
As you pointed out, Guliana grew up in a house full of love and family being there for her, Bill is a very succesful guy in his own right, so their dinamic is very different to Bethenny and Jason, they have what Bethenny and Jason lack, besides they were engaged for much longer than B & J.
I was so happy for the news, they deserve as much hapiness as they can get and that baby will be the luckiest of them all.
I agree… and just because someone may have all the money in the world the cliche is true… money doesn’t buy happiness. Also this thinking that Bethenny should just get over it already and be happy… gee if it was that easy, there wouldn’t be any need for therapists. My ex-husband used to say that to me when I told him I was unhappy about something… that he didn’t know what my problem was and I should “just be happy”… yes, EX-husband.
Jason clearly is the one who said that his parents would not be an option because of their age, seems like they have discussed it. So this is my take on the issue.
When my DH and I discussed who would be the guardian of my child if something were to happen to both of us, the obvious choices didn’t work, his parents are in age as mine are, let’s remember that this is a situation about what would happen if both parents die.
I think Jason and Bethenny might have taken in consideration several factors like place of residency, it is already traumatic enough for a child to lose both parents but relocation is traumatic as well, the Hoppy live in Hazleton and Julie lives in Pittsburg, so that would mean that Bryn would have to relocate, change school and find new friends.
They also have to consider Bryn feelings, Veronica is not only a friend to Bethenny but also takes care of Bryn on a regular basis, she seems to be level headed and still young enough to help Bryn do some girly stuff like a mani pedi, buy clothes according to her style and so on.
Even though most people belive that Godmothers are the ones who should have the baby is anything happens to the parents, the true is that Godparents are only in charge of spiritual guidance, the guardian is the one who eventually would be linked to legal decision as to what school to enroll, how to distribute the moneys and so.
I think is just a necessary prevision and with some luck, Bethenny and Jason would live enough than by the time something does happen, Bryn would be able to live on her own.
Cartwheels, I agree with your posts today, very thoughtful. Another problem B & Jason have is that they found each other later in life, got pregnant, then married, then all of B’s success. Impossible to go thru all that, & on a reality show without having lots of major issues. If they do work it all out, and I hope they do – it will be because they really do want to be together for the long haul.
Lots of very successful people have a hard time finding their “soul mate.” The money & fame does get in the way. I’ve seen lots of famous people rely more on the friends they had before they got all the fame & money, because it’s so hard to trust the people that come into your life after that. Are they there for you, or the fame & money? I do admire Jason for going through all this for Bethenny, & for Bryn. I can see them together in their eighties, as long as B doesn’t drive him totally crazy lol!
LOL, I can see that.
I think that like someone else said before, if Jason would give Bethenny the love and reassurance that she so desperately wants, there is nothing she would not do for him. Jason sending his digs and saying those things to her has created a vicious circle, Bethenny thinks he is right and she is damaged so the relationship will not work out, in return Jason sees that she shuts down and is unreachable so he feels like it is because she can’t respect him because he is not as succesful as she is.
They both have big issues to work on, the good part is that they both love each other and they love Bryn, if they can overcome this terrible two year, they just might be able to make it.
Yes, we saw some problems last night but we also saw how dedicated they are to making this marriage work because they love each other. They seem to both want to work on it and that’s more than half the battle. So much happened to them so fast of course there’s going to be growing pains especially with the emotional baggage Bethenny has. Jason lost his only sibling, I’m sure he has his issues too. I’m rooting for them.
It is very painful watching B & Jason argue on the show. It seems to me that Jason has refused therapy in the past. B has had so much therapy, she knows the pathway to discovering what’s really going on. So here’s what, B is putting Jason thru therapy, in a way….making Jason realize why he says those barbs to her, why he acts the way he does. You know what, it just might be working. On next week’s show, he has a major breakthrough. He admits it’s the money, that he’s jealous of B’s success! B knows what her own problems are. She has major trust issues, she really has a hard time believing that Jason won’t leave her (she talked to Dr. Amador about this). Deep down, B doesn’t believe she is worth loving. It makes me very sad that a mother (and father) could cause this much damage to their own child. Most of us are so lucky, we grew up with relatively caring, loving parents. B did not. We don’t know what B & Jason are going thru right now, but they are still together. I have to admit, there are some things about Jason that I don’t like. Does he love B or the money more? I really want them to work out their issues, stay together & be a beautiful family with Bryn.
Amen!
It is hard to watch.
I’ve decided that I’m done with shows that focus on the ugly aspects of relationships. I didn’t watch this season of ATL and I I won’t watch NJ. I’m not sure I am going to watch NY.
The only reason I’m sticking with BEA is because I believe they resolve their issues by the end of the season. Maybe not forever but at least for the time being.
I don’t think it is the money, as a matter of fact I am starting to believe that for somebody like Jason, it would be so much better if Bethenny didn’t have that much money, then he would feel more validated.
In their case I think than more than money, pride is at stake.
My ex used to always say that he’d be perfectly fine if I had a lot more money than he did… he’d adjust, no problem… unfortunately we never got to put it to the test.
I have to say I was thrilled to hear about Guiliana and Bill having a baby.. I have been meaning to mention that show on here but always forget when I wake up! lol.. I watched their show last night (missed it last week).. And THAT is what reality tv should be.. I wish B and J could look at their relationship in the same way and try to find the love and balance that G and B have found together.. I know you cannot replicate anyone’s relationship but it’s just so much more enjoyable to watch.. Even tho she is going through really hard times (breast cancer.. trouble conceiving.. etc) You laugh and cry with them..
Where as with B and J I just cringe and wonder if I should start a pool on how much longer they are going to last.. They are mentally and emotionally abusive to eachother.. No one is more at fault than the other.. And I say abusive because they are damaging eachother, their confidence and their wellbeing.. It is not healthy to argue non-stop..
Something I noticed was when she haggled and bought the merchandise from the guy on the beach.. Jason said the brown one was his favorite etc.. And that was like the one she didn’t get.. It sounds small.. But I felt like that could feel like a dig to him like “I dont care.. Im going to get what I want.. Not what you like”.. Which we have seen in the new apartment and many other things.. That would get really old.. I think in a way Jason sees it constantly that she gets what she wants all the time.. No matter if its a piece of cloth.. A room for a closet instead of a mancave.. or whatever.. It’s hard to let go of something that keeps happening..
As for leaving Bryn to RaRa.. I think it will be a slap to the grandparent’s face.. BUT I think that B and J’s thought is that what if this happens later on in the game.. I think they tried to find someone who would think to do the little things as well as love her and I think that would involve seeing her grandparents a lot.. Neither has a sibling or I think that would be the natural choice.. So they went to friends.. If they feel it would be a burden to Jason’s parents or too hard for them.. Then I am sure there is likely a reason that we just don’t know about and shouldn’t judge..
I am a BF fan.. and wish her well.. But I agree with many who feel she is so busy complaining and making the world a negative place that she doesn’t appreciate what she has that is important.. It is getting hard to watch and I understand why Julie is walking because many of us feel like walking from the show and we only see an hour a week!! B is broken and damaged but part of it is accepting you are and moving on.. Finding happiness.. Not holdin onto that part of yourself with a vice grip and using it to explain everything.. I feel like she likes it as an excuse almost.. I don’t know I am on the fence about it..
LOVE Guiliana and Bill though! If you don’t watch the show you should!
I have watched Guiliana and Bill a handful of times and really enjoyed it. I’m not sure why Bravo thinks that we need dark drama in order to tune in. I am not watching RHONJ this season because I can’t stomach everyone bashing one person. Honestly, it was boring when they were doing it to Danielle and it is still boring when they are doing it to Teresa.
I watch BEA because I think Bethenny is funny. I could easily do without the husband/ wife drama. I have to FF through most of it. Unlike Guiliana and Bill, where I can watch a whole episode.
B chose all the footage you see. Don’t think you can blame Bravo for the dark drama in this one.
Exactly. If her mission this season was to prove that J is not perfect (as if we ever thought he was), and that she isn’t a shrew when it Comes to J, I think she’s failed miserably at it. Instead, to me, she’s come across as a complaining whiner.
I wrote a long comment at the beginning of the season about her mission to prove that J isn’t perfect. That is the sole act by Bethenny that shows me how mentally unsound she really is and I do feel sorry for Jason. One word that we have never heard Jason utter has caused countless people to turn against him. “Damaged” and it was taken out of context because she didn’t tell us about the context in which it was used. I am sure he didn’t just yell “You are damaged” out of the blue. It could of been to reiterate what Bethenny was saying. It could have been in spite. It could have been after Bethenny hurled twenty hurtful insults first. Who knows? We weren’t there! It wasn’t a blog, or JZ or the tabloids that turned people against Jason… it was Bethenny herself. And that really blows my mind!
She couldn’t stand that people loved Jason. I too wondered on what context did he say that. I like Jason. I just think B is a control freak and that behavior is going to ruin her marriage.
I think I would be upset that my husband would talk about private matters in front of the TV cameras. Or…talk badly about me, or say I’m verbally abusive, or insulting, or air any of our dirty laundry.
Every relationships has problems, we all argue, but we don’t have the world watching.
I think there needs to be some compromise, on both sides. So sad…
I think Bethenny’s skewed vision of what a family is, has alot to do with some of their martial problems. Seems she wants to isolate Bryn from her grandparents. I think the more people that want to love a child, the better.
I know I would be extremely upset if my daughter wanted a friend to raise my granddaughter, instead of me, if something were to happen to her. I know I would fight this in a courtroom.
Be honest with yourselfs…how would you feel?
It would depend on my age at the time. I just went on vacation with my sister and her children who are 12, 11, and 10 year old twins, and I was exhausted by the time we returned. My kids are 18 to 25, and I am 54. I forgot how much energy it takes to entertain young kids. Doing that on a daily basis, taking them to all their athletic practices and events, doing homework and projects… I don’t know if I would be up to it at my age let alone when when I am older. Not to say I wouldn’t or couldn’t do it, but I don’t know if it would be fair to the kids.
Like I said above, we didn’t consider naming my parents as guardians and they weren’t upset. They had raised their own kids and were enjoying their retirement. They knew that if anything happened to us, my sister would make sure that they still played a part in my children’s lives.
I eluded to that a couple weeks ago myself. It’s one of the many reasons I believe she set out this season (hopefully her last) to prove to the viewers that Jason, is Not perfect. There are always methods to her madness I believe.
Bethenny, Bravo or the Dark Lord himself… maybe I am in the minority who FF over the fighting. I also watch Interior Therapy and Million Dollar Listing and have no problem watching the entire hour.
I don’t have a problem on Big Rich Texas, because it isn’t reality to the extent of RHONY or BEA. I like that style of reality tv over Bravo’s style. The show looks so fake that the fighting doesn’t bother me. They appear more as actors than people.
You aren’t the only one who FF’s. I’m growing to prefer the faux-ality myself as well as the game type shows (TAR, Survivor, CA, etc).
ITA!
I was confused because I thought part of the rules of godparents was that when you died, they get the kid? Why add another employee to the mix? Is this because Julie left and now Bethenny doesn’t feel she’s loyal?
Red flags again.
No, Godparent is the person who is responsible for the spiritual development of the child along with the parents.
Some people may choose to name that person or persons as legal guardians as well but unless they do a Godparent has no legal right to custody.
Oops, jsut saw the second part of your post. I don’t think not naming Julie has anything to do with B thinking Julie is disloyal. Julie is moving to Pittsburgh. Bethenny probably can’t imagine Brynn not being raised in NYC. And Pittsburgh is even farther away from Jason’s parents so they would see her less if Julie had custody than if RaRa was raising her.
She can imagine it. She wanted to move to the West Coast last season. Also Julie is living in Pennsylvania where the Jason’s family lives. Which, to me, would have been another reason to select Julie.
That’s right they did talk about moving to the west coast. I had forgotten that. But Pittsburgh is on the other side of PA from Jason’s parents. They live in Eastern PA closer to NYC than Pittsburgh.
Much closer.
In defense of the Grandparents not being chosen as guardian, my mom is 70 and while she cares for her grandchildren part time, she is in no way capable of taking care of both of them at her age, full-time, and she was their first choice, but my mom explained it needed to be someone younger, and in our case my sister is guardian. For Bethenny and Jason, neither has any siblings, and I would have to believe that there would be some legal paperwork drawn up so that the Hoppy’s would have ample access to their grandchild, but Bravo isn’t going to show that, I don’t think Jason or Bethenny would have it any other way. I would have to assume that Jason has discussed this with his parents, because as we have seen he doesn’t really want to be on camera this season discussing things that no one else knows about.
Now onto their bickering, I will tell you that there is no way in the world I would want my second year of marriage on tape, it was awful, we fought all the time, it was loud, hurtful and issues would simmer for days and some times blow up again and again. There are bits and pieces of this on family home videos wherein you can clearly hear us having some “heated” disagreements right in front of our family, those are painful enough to watch, could not imagine having a camera crew there 24/7 catching all the action. My parents were the ones to actually counsel us on how to constructively discuss our issues and not blow every little thing up, since they had been married 30 years at the time. I have been married 20 years now, and while we still fight, it’s quick(some times a bit loud), to the point, and we try very hard not to crush the other with our words, we aren’t perfect and we have a banter that some may take as arguing. I hope that once the cameras are off the couple and they settle into their marriage they are in it for the long haul.
So true T-Rex. Then I get really cynical & start thinking, is it all for the show??? The scene where B & Jason get the massage was really cute. It kind of seemed choppy to me that they can do all this arguing and then go right into being happy together…hmmm maybe this reality show is a little planned out? Jason doesn’t want to reveal his true thoughts so maybe that’s why their “bickering” scenes are so difficult as he’s being hog tied & dragged into it. Lol maybe the real argument is that Jason doesn’t want to reveal his true emotions & thoughts whereas B does.
I agree. I think they were trying to make the best, realistic decision for Bryn and not an empty gesture.
Jason could have said he didn’t want to be on last season and this season.
I don’t get the anger at B. She never claimed to be perfect in fact quite the opposite. Jason is the one who has changed and not for the better but even that isn’t unexpected. I still like them both.
And no way would I ahve left my kids to either pair of grandparents.
Yep… ITA with everything you say.
Congratulations on your 20 year marriage, TR! Making a marriage work through 20 years takes work and patience and sacrifice – you were blessed to have the support of your parents through the early years. The part of your post that really resonated w/me is that you both make an effort not to crush each other w/your words. Incredibly important! Learning to fight fair is a real skill – no matter how angry I may be with my hubs, I never lose sight of how much I love that man – I wouldn’t hurt him for the world.
This is exactly the point my parents made to the both of us, that if you decide to keep up the insults, hurtful comments, etc. you are just placing “nails in the coffin of your marriage” my dad’s exact words. You never forget when someone has said something hurtful and then brings it up over and over again. My sister was going through her divorce at this time and my parents were sad watching us go down the same path, they didn’t like my sister’s husband so they were kinda happy(I know that sounds hateful, but the truth) my sister left her cheating, emotionally abusive man, but they saw my husband different and knew we were a good match for each other. Oh, my sister married a really wonderful guy 4 years after her divorce and is now extremely happy after 15 years of marriage.
It’s good to hear a happily ever after story.
My late half-sister was a widow when she passed away. She gave her mother total control of her sons and money. She was going to marry the brother of her sister’s husband, confusing yep. OK now, how so I word this? My late half-sister had broken up with her fiance and moved on to another relationship as did he. He had kept his close relationship with her sons, having them spend the night, going to games, etc. When she died he asked her mother for custody. My step-mother said yes, but kept guardianship and money. She then sent the money for their expenses every month, requested receipts for reimbursement of clothing, etc. She and my father are now deceased and the boys are still with him. I don’t have contact with them as I do not know where they live.
Nice post Donna. Proof that family isn’t always about blood.
It sounds as if he really loves those boys. I’m glad he was in their life when she passed. And your stepmother did the right thing by maintaining the financial angle.
While I am happy to hear a father figure stepped up for your nephews, I am sorry to hear that you have lost contact with them.
http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/did-jill-zarin-make-a-dig-at-ex-best-friend-bethenny-frankel-2012244#ixzz1sy6W0CoK
Interesting article regarding Jillzy and her comment from last night. She is proud that US Weekly picked up on her comment (she tweeted about it) even though it is not in a positive light.
Good, bad, ugly publicity….as long as anything is written about her it is all good in her very “interesting” mind.
Of course she calls the people questioning her, bullies. She overuses that term. It is a cover for the fact that she can’t have intelligent banter with anyone. Bully is her talking point that goes to show that she isn’t that bright. I am surprised she didn’t say they are antisemitic as well. She loves that word as well… JZ is so dimwitted.
I don’t think the people in her life care or love her enough to tell to watch her mouth.
Typical Jill, gives out a jab publicly on twitter and when people call her out on the nastiness, they are the bullies.
Morning folks. Hope it’s a great one for you so far (I need a new line). Happy Birthday once again, Savannah111. To all those going through stuff or just taking a break or the seasonal posters (the ones who only post during certain shows), hope all is well with you too.
I didn’t watch much TV last night. I saw the preview for BEA just before it came on. While Mexico looked fun for the gang and it might have been fun to watch for that part, there was J&B having yet another argument about something and B crying, once again, about it. I looked at the hound and said, ‘I just can’t’. He looked back and said, ‘well then, turn off the TV and do something else.’. At least that’s what I thought I heard him say, so I did. I did check in here and comment a bit. Had a little fun bashing our favorite redhead. I put some work into the tracks for my next slideshow. Had dinner. Stuff like that. BEA is still on the DVR and I May watch it, or not, but by then, no one will care about it or what I have to say about it (you can probably already guess what I would say anyway).
I did read Lynn’s interview with Jaq and I see it mentioned in the blog today along with a twit from Jaq. I don’t know which came first, the twit or the interview but In the interview, Someone said:
“Before I could ask about Dina’s involvement with Teresa Jacqueline offered, “Teresa reached out to Dina and I still don’t know why Dina agreed to film with her, they’re not friends now.””
That’s a direct copy and past from what Lynn put in the writeup. Someone said it. Either Jaq, Or Lynn. I’m inclined to believe it was Jaq who said it and Lynn just wrote what she said. Then today, on today’s blog:
“@JacLaurita Too clear it up..I never said Teresa&Dina weren’t friends.I said they didn’t talk during filming until Tre&I got in a fight.They r friends.”
Either I’m reading something wrong or there’s back peddling going on here. She can’t have it Both ways. A good liar remembers what they say, or should. The truth sets one free because they don’t Have to remember what they said. That’s all I’m saying. Just sayin’. That further puts everything she (Jaq) had to say in that interview, in doubt for Me. You all can draw your own conclusions as I’m sure, many of you have.
If I get to BEA today, I’ll let you all know what I thought of it. If not, Have a great one everybody.
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Lynn doesn’t change what someone tells her in an interview. Wacky Jacky says lots of hurtful things and then backtracks – that is her pattern. How she knows what Dina and Teresa’s relationship is questionable – the dysfunctional family dynamics of the Manzo/Laurita clan lead me to think that Dina may have distanced herself from her own family members and they don’t like it. As Caroline says, “it is what it is!”, and in this case Wacky Jacky didn’t like how she came across and is trying to rewrite what she said and just may be a wee bit jealous that Dina and Teresa have a friendship and she isn’t allowed to be friends with Teresa anymore.
I agree with you WCW. I don’t think I suggested that Lynn changed Anything.
Jac doesn’t say a lot of hurtful things. She’s got nothing on Teresa in that department. As for the tweet-it’s clear that she was just clarifying that they weren’t friends(t and D)at the time she was referring to, but they are talking now. Not that complicated. Or devious.
I’m impressed that Mel told you turn off the TV. Lola usually just says that she wants more cookies!
That is probably in fact what he was saying. I my distaste for watching anything last night though probably translated it into turn off the TV
Nah, he looks smart enough to say what you thought you heard!
My frusteration with Bethenny is in spite of all the years of therapy, being very intelligent and having a wonderful husband she is stuck in a cycle, she keeps projecting which ultimately comes true. I can honestly say, (for those of you who read my background post) I would qualify as damaged. I sit here and as I type it i have no doubt that I am BUT I know have a wonderful husband that encourages and loves me. I am moved and inspired by him to be a better person. So from one damaged person to another: surround yourself by people who inspire you to be better let the rest fall by the wayside. X
NightLight – For me it didn’t really happen until I had my first child. Then I had to focus on her and not myself. I’m not saying it was an overnight change. I still hold onto some of the old hurts and fears. Like everyone else I’m a work in progress. But Bethenny is still very self absorbed.
You know what Mamaz, you might of hit on something about our children’s influence. I was a young mom, not a teenager, but I was very young. The moment I found out I was pregnant I knew I had to make changes. Yes, it was not overnight sine I was in a marriage that lasted longer than it should have. I do believe in karma and things happen for a reason. There is a picture of me (can’t find it) when I was about 3, looking quite raggedy and I want to let that little 3 yr old that she comes through just fine on the other end.
Having a child certaintly does something to you. Ususally it’s the man that’s slow to change, but B seems to be dragging her feet in the sense it’s no longer abou ther.
I’m glad you find yourself in a better place. I would Hope, the same for B. However, I think it’s Always going to be Something with her. For whatever reason, she won’t allow herself, it seems anyway, to ‘let it fall by the wayside’. She keeps, from what I can tell anyway, expecting those around her to change when in fact, it is herself she should be concentrating on changing.
“Sometimes low self esteem is just common sense”
Or just letting go. The issue for someone who didn’t get the parenting, acceptance, support, love, that they needed growing up, is typically that they demand so much validation from their intimates as adults. You’ve just got to get to the point where you let go of what you didn’t get – stop trying to compensate for your deficits, and accept, appreciate, cherish what you have now in your life. I worked w/a psychiatrist who would characterize people w/attachment problems as being “black holes” – it’s like no matter how much you give, it never seems to satisfy the emotional need. Because what they’re looking for is the parenting that they didn’t get and can’t recapture.
Letting go would be a change for her, wouldn’t it? She has to start somewhere. A definition of stupid is to repeat the same actions expecting different results. B isn’t dumb but her father is dead and her mother by all accounts, including hers, is some sort of flaming one eyed ogre of a shrew. The faster she accepts that she didn’t get whatever it is she thought she needed from them, the better off she’ll be. One day though, she is going to look up from the checkbook she pays her ‘therapist’ with and see Jason running down the street screaming that he can’t take it anymore.
IMHO this show will be one more thing that they need to get over. For as long as they are married they will have to defend their relationship. This was the season that should not have happened. If B wanted one more year it should of revolved another topic, I don’t know what but not her marriage. I think she was very adamant trying to show how unperfect a marriage can be that she sunk her marriage.
Great visual, Mel – sad, but could very well be true. Hope not.
I watched the re-run of HwoNJ and I loved it. Sunday night I just was not in the mood for the fighting and turned it off after a few minutes. Last night I was ready and really think NJ is the best franchise. Rosie is a hoot and I see her getting more air time in the future.
BEA was so hard to watch. Jason is so unhappy. Bryn is darling. Bethenny really needs to SLOW DOWN and step back and work on her marriage.
I am finding myself not really wanting to watch some Bravo shows now – when I used to be “I can’t wait to see what happens this week”!
I’m content to just read Lynn’s recaps. I’m just not interested in watching these horrible people rip each other to shreds anymore.
I know how you feel. They have been getting so dark. I had hoped BH would be different but then Russell died and bravo went ahead with airing Taylor and her lies.
I agree, AZG – NJ seems to be one of the few of this franchise where I actually like the people. It was good to seem them back. I love the sense of humor that these people have – I always get some chuckles out of their antics.
Watching it I thought is this going to turn into the Marco show?
Jillzy is a moron and we are not stupid. She better watch her back because Bawby is a really nice guy that is going to get tired of her crap.
I often wonder if he is really as nice as he seems. She is so obviously a shrew why would a nice guy not tell her to knock it off!
I could understand him believing her version of things early in the marriage but come on! After all this time surely he can recognize that she creates at least half of the drama around her. Yet we still saw him speaking to both Simon and Alex about correcting their behavior towards Jill. I’m not sure that Bawby isn’t cut from the sam cloth as his wife.
Yes, street angel, house devil?
Good cop, Bad cop!
I totally agree with you and have thought the same thing about Bobby. It’s one thing to have your SO’s back, it’s another thing to let them carry on treating good people like trash, making a efffin fool out of themselves and just being a horrible person.
Teresa’s blog is up…and it is good!!!!
I agree…her writer did a great job! Jk…it actually does give an interesting perspective, especially the meatball “1/8 Italian” thing. When you see it in the whole context of the book and what lead up to it, it does sort of seem like Caroline made a huge deal out of nothing. I mean Richie made a joke about Teresa burning on a stake and she brushes it off, have to say that is a good attitude to it all.
Not that her blog forgives all of her behavior nor should it, I just think every side is flawed. It’s hard to get fully behind any of the “Teams” this year. Also, I really think Melissa’s whole personality change the beginning of this season, “staying out of it” is very a la Camille Grammar in hopes that the audience will forgive her shoddy behavior at the beginning of last season.
She may have gotten a writer for her blog-it seems very thought out and not so much like her blogs in the past. It was long but it didnt go on and on like the others!!!
Thanks for the heads up! Teresa is speaking out! Finally!
Yes, it was good. I thought she did explain a lot. Look, every last one of them is crazy and out for themselves.
I always wondered why it was okay for everyone to make jokes, except for Teresa. All the joking from the Manzo precious children. Richie, Kathy. Last season when Teresa called out Kathy on calling her dumb on the reunion, Kathy’s answer was that it was a joke. In the meantime, Kathy said she wasn’t part Gorga and Teresa had to explain to her that she was!
I never thought I would be backing Teresa after season two, but I am in her court against the all mighty Manzo clan. Lauren is turning into sourpuss Caroline the second. Does this girl have any friends??
I mostly like Bethenny and I admire her work ethic BUT….
maybe Jason wouldn’t feel like such an underacheiver if SG wasn’t being shoved in his face all day, every day.
B’s office is in their home so he is surrounded by SG business when he gets home from his day at work. He instituted a 6pm work moratorium so we can assume it often went much later than that.
He is surrounded by SG employess. Even their vacation to Mexico is a SkinnyGirl retreat.
He wouldn’t be the first spouse of either gender to resent being relegated to second place after the career.
Bethenny needs to remove career from marriage. Period. This will save her marriage.
Mel – I agree. And I think she should hand over the reins for at least some part of SG to Jason. That would show that she believes in and trusts him and then maybe he could trust her and feel like an equal.
Agree – I was struck by the fact that her staff was part of their Mexico BDay getaway. Of course, her business is important to her, but she has to learn to set some limits, protect her family time, and make her marriage and their family a priority over the business.
There is no way on God’s green earth that my husband would go away on a vacation as the only male. No way, no how!
I don’t know how to post links, so am posting a heads-up to please check out JZ’s twitter timeline, and the tweet she sent Bethenny. Quick, before she removes it!
IF it’s actually a link, you should be able to:
Point to the link with your mouse and hit the right button.
From the window that pops up, select Copy Link Location
Come back here to a reply window (where you type) point somewhere in the box.
Hit the right button on your mouse again and select Paste.
Done.
IF it is Text you want to copy, in case you don’t know, While holding down the Left button, highlight the text. Then hit the right button on your mouse and select copy. Come back here, and paste it. Done.
Good luck.
Forgot.. You highlight the text by holding the left button down and dragging the mouse across what you want to copy.
I’m on an IPad now, different directions that I don’t have the patience to learn
thanks for the kind info, tho. But as long as you’re there, Mel, let me ask you for your male perspective. I read upstream that Bethenny had Jason sign a prenup AFTER the Jim Beam deal went through. Now, IMHO, although B put in a LOT of work and effort into the “brand”, I feel more like she won the effing LOTTERY vs. fee for service, if you get my drift. I also don’t believe Jason would have married her if she hadn’t allowed herself to get pregnant. He seems like a simple straight-up guy raised with family values. I am positive that if “single Jason” spent real time around the Bethenny circus without the baby he’d run for the hills. (is it true he doesn’t have his own space in the condo that Skinnygirl built? ) I digress…now there’s no amount of blood, sweat and tears that Jason could squeeze out of his soul to keep up with B’s lottery winnings. Wouldn’t that post-facto prenup make your manly blood boil? I mean with what I read he puts up with, seems like he has already earned his 50%….IMHO.
I don’t know what is actually In the prenuptial agreement. I also don’t remember if they were already Married when the deal with JB came through. I do think however that were it not for a lot of work on Jason’s part, it may not have been as lucrative as it was. I do think, he’s entitled to part of it at the very least. IF they were married when the deal was hashed out and came through, I Thought, by state law, he’s entitled to half. Would it make my manly blood boil? It depends on the exact circumstance. Whatever role he’s going to play with Skinny Girl brand, they better get it hashed out quick because if not, He’s going to split. I for one, would not want to be working for my wife but that’s just me.
Further, I believe the only reason they are married to begin with IS Bryn. I have no doubt that he would have taken care of her either way but I think that he could see, if they weren’t married, he might not be allowed to be a part of Bryn’s life. Not to the extent he would want to be anyway. Did she ‘Trap’ him with a baby? Don’t know but after she peed in the ice bucket, she waddled down the aisle and said I Do. So did he.
If I remember correctly they were already engaged before Bryn was concieved. And didn’t B say that although they weren’t trying to get pregnant they weren’t trying to prevent it?
I think B trapping Jason is a bit of a stretch. These are grown ups with some degree of financial security and no need for shotgun weddings.
Why is it ok for women like Camille to get 50%, but not men? (Not the same league, but still.)
The SG deal was after they were married. They entered into a post-nuptual agreement after the deal. NY is a 50/50 no fault state, so yes he would be entitled to half but for, what I’m assuming, is stated in the post-nup agreement, which I’ll go ahead and guess either gives him an escalator clause portion or nothing.
So, is “I won the lottery and you, my dear hubby and father of my child, will share what I say you can!”… even…nice?
Re-tweet it before she removes it
Jill Zarin @Jillzarin
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@bethenny we (bobby,ally and I ) will always be here if you need us. But you always knew that right? Ally told me you spoke. I was happy.
Stinks like a PR move.
reading Teresa’s blog…super long but goes into great detail. BTW she has somebody writing it for her. It’s still a good one.
Why do they feel the need to write 5-9 pages? Melissa and Wacky Jacky get the long winded whiner awards this week.
oh my gosh….someone stole my screen name. Should i change to “original mel”??? lol.
What? Do you mean the Mel in the green above is not you? I thought I was talking to the “original Mel”!
I didn’t think that was you
Sorry! My name is Mel. I can change it to Mel007 if you’d rather.
I didn’t see that there was already a Mel screen name.
Welcome aboard.
There are too many Mels, lol. Hi Mel007.
I didn’t even catch it – welcome, Mel007!
I thought that Mel was you (original Mel), and I wondered why your avatar had changed from blue to green.
Mel, I like “Original Mel”
Haha…no worries Mel. Just didn’t want anyone to get confused.
So we have……Melthehound, Mel, and Mel007
I am waiting for Mel 2.0 to pop next lol.
Welcome Mel007….from one Mel to another You Rock : )
Did anyone else see this or know anything about her. Website also reports Taylor is being fazed out, not because she’s a liar, fake and irritating, because she has a drinking problem.
http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2012/04/yolanda-hadid-confirmed-as-new-real-housewife-of-beverly-hills/
Why does the first sentence say she has been cast as a Real Housewife of NJ instead of BH? That first sentence doesn’t make sense.
You’re right. But I’m sure they mean BH
Me too, but these people get paid to write this stuff. You’d think they could get it correct.
Welcome Mel007
I’m not being sarcastic here, I generally watch tv on mute. I just turned on tv and was jolted, what the heck is that!! LOL it was Melissa singing, she can’t dance either.
As Joan Cusack’s character says in the movie “Working Girl,” “Sometimes I sing and dance around the house in my underwear. Doesn’t make me Madonna. Never will.” Melissa and Gretchen and some of the other housewives need to take note. Lol.
Bethenny didn’t have a post nup, she said she had a pre nup, she had to do it mainly at the insistance of her partner David Kanbar. Jason did help to identify potential production delay but the business brain of this whole operation is not even Bethenny, is it David so I am sure when he learned that Bethenny was going to get married, he insisted on a prenup that would protect his assets and investment on SGM. I am sure nor Bethenny neither Jason thought the deal could be that lucrative so there was initially no problems in that area. Once the deal was strucked and the final numbers came down, it was all more clear.
I don’t have a financial degree but I am thinking that if David Kanbar was looking to protect his part of the investment, somewhere around that pre-nup there must be a clause that specifically protects any earnings from the SGC line and that is where the big money is. If it protects David, I am sure it protects Bethenny as well.
Jason is very smart and he is also hardworking so I can see how Jason working for Bethenny would make more sense than continuing with his actual job, the fact that it hasn’t happened yet is because probably Bethenny doesn’t want the arguments at home to get carried over at work.
The fact that there is a clause that protects Bethenny’s earning from SGC must be what makes Jason not trust Bethenny, he has said several times, your business, you earned it, you deserve it, and she has corrected him as many times saying “we ” or “us”
I am not sure that making him a partner would be the correct move for her either, maybe start with making him a partner in one of his business and she how does it goes from there.
Some men can deal with it and some others don’t. Rachel Zoe’s husband for instance, he left his job to work for her, he is not her partner, he works for her.
I still have a problem trying to figure out why she has to give up half of what she has earned just to pet his ego, ultimately I am not sure that it is what he really wants, what would be worse form someone as proud as Jason, to realize that professionally he would never be at the same level as Bethenny or to admit that she had to give him up half of what is hers just to make him feel better.
It is honestly a difficult call.
The funny part of all this is that I am almost sure that if Jason would had fullfill her emotional needs and would make her feel like he is in the relationship just for her and only for her, by this time or few years down the road, Bethenny would have already given him everything and m0re of what he expects just to make him happy.
ITA!
Another well thought out and thoughtfully penned post, Cartwheel! 8)
You wrote:
“Bethenny didn’t have a post nup, she said she had a pre nup, she had to do it mainly at the insistance of her partner David Kanbar.”
Precisely.
Just another 2¢: At 40, you not only often discover you’ll need reading glasses, but that you have probably reached the peak of your profession. Reconciling your youthful dreams with the reality of the 40s seems to give many people pause – not just Jason – and some work through it/adapt with more speed and ease than others. No blame or shame assigned here – it just IS. So instead of picking someone apart, it might be kinder to just understand and provide love, friendship and support whenever possible.
I agree, it is very hard for Jason and for that my sympathies are with him.
It doesn’t matter now how much he does, he will never be as succesful as Bethenny because she had raised the bar way to high for him to be able to reach it. So what to do when you realize that?
A person who was raised in the city and is more open minded probably would not have that much trouble embracing it, but for Jason it is a struggle because it is the way he was raised. He not only feels less in Bethenny’s eyes but probably also in the viewers eyes and that is why he has been so careful not to let his real feelings be known for so long.
I think that is where he makes a mistake, I never thought any less of him just because I know that Bethenny is the main provider, I never thought that he was taking advantage of her at all, if anything I always thought that Bethenny was a very lucky girl, he is handsome, he is well spoken and educated, and he loves her and Bryn to pieces.
I think insecurities work in both of them and the sooner they talk about it and learn how to deal with them the better.
As much as I like Jason though, I am just not very kind to the idea of Bethenny giving her half of her assests or destroying the pre-nup. If Jason is going to stay for the long haul, then he is going to have to learn to deal with it.
I don’t think she should have to give half of her assets either. It’s great the business took off and I’m happy for them. As long as they are a married couple he benefits from everything she has, if they do ever get divorced (and I hope they don’t) he should benefit the same way any other spouse would and I’m sure that is spelled out in the pre-nup, Jason is smart he knew what he was signing. I signed a pre-nup and have never regretted it. I signed it because he worked hard to get what he had and it was his, I could understand him not wanting to loose what he had if it didn’t work out I would feel the same way about my stuff. And besides he’s stuck with me for life! I seriously doubt Jason would take anything from her, he doesn’t strike me as that type of person. In the end everything she has will go to her daughter whether she is alone or still married to Jason. That’s who they are working for in the end, to take care of their child(ren). I think Jason always thought he’d be the primary breadwinner in his family and he’s not, he needs to deal with it. Look at Queen Elizabeth and her husband, he dealt with it and it appears they have had a good marriage.
I agree 100%
Here’s Teresa’s Bravo blog. A masterpiece of PR!
http://www.bravotv.com/the-real-housewives-of-new-jersey/season-4/blogs/teresa-giudice/put-a-smile-on-your-face
I am looking at the Jill tweet. It actually turns my stomach. Ill is so desperate she has no shame. She was raised in either a barn or by wolves. Why would she expose a conversation w/Ally. That right belongs to the 2 in the conversation!
Hell, I had a conversation w/Ally at the airport. Ill had her jump in front of me so she could take my picture. Ally jumped in front as the luggage passed and said excuse me as ill snapped. I said “get the f*#k off me”! JUST KIDDING!!!!!!!!!
No I said that’s OK”!
If I were ill I would be spreading:
“Ally and I met at the airport and talked”!
Spin it iLL. I don’t believe anything you lie. Opps I meant any thing you say.
Mostly sorry ladies; my goal is not to waste my breath on ilL.
But since I started on FIRED
HO Wives.
Cray Cray was on Wendy Williams.
It’s called a “drive by”. A car horn honks and a guest RUNs in & out in 3min flat. The drop in is never on the tv information as a listed guest. Cray Cray held up her book and asked folks to buy it 3Xs. Wendy had her on in my opinion to ask 1 question. Is Cray dating Madonna’s baby daddy as is reported in tabs. Cray said n0. She said Madonna is one of the #1 women in the world and is beautiful and it is not true!
The big difference between you and JZ, in my opinion, is that YOU have alway proven to be a person of integrity. JZ . . . not so much.
Heheh, Kelly doesn’t even get to sit down! Just held up her dumb book and begged. Jeez I need to see that.
Kelly sat on the couch for 3min
4 minutes too long!
I’m off to meet Cusi for dinner, can’t wait to meet her! Talk to you all soon! xo
Have a wonderful time together!!!!!
RIGHT ON!!!! Have a great time!
Sounds like fun!!
I have a very interesting question for the blog:
When do you think the housewives will end?
I know DC was cancelled because none of the ladies wanted to work for the Salahis…but what about the other franchises?
Season after Season it is the same BS and recycled arguments. Is their an expiration on these shows. Like after 10 years we are done…..
When people stop watching them and tire of trash TV.
If 10 years would be a good guess on the expiration date, then OC has 3 to go. You are right though, they’re all pretty much the same. Just different casts of players.
Guess what, Bravo actually published my comment on Kathy’s blog.
Here it is
Submitted by RabbleRouser on April 23, 2012.
Thank God your mother was at the bbq put a stop to all of you figuratively ‘roasting the bitch at the stake’. While Teresa isn’t innocent, that gang pile was pathetic and weak. Little Joey looked like he was scared that Zia Nonni was going to call his Mama on him…I hope she did.
Speaking of the blogs, I read Teresa’s. Whoever is writing her blogs did a very good job, I notices that they left the “Teresa-isms” in it for a convincing effect. eg. When address the comment about telling Joey that Melissa would leave him for a richer man, she called it a “rumor”. A rumor is people gossiping about something they suspect or are alleging you have done. Saying you think or beleive someone would so something isn’t a rumor, it’s gossip but not a rumor.
I’m wondering if the Punta Cana fight is what they are talking about when they say read between the lines or at least in part since it is a big deal yet isn’t addressed on the show or in their blogs for what are probably legal reasons.
You nailed it. I also think that the “read between the lines” is the fiasco in Punta Cana there is no way that the Manzos, Lauritas and Gorgas are upset about those inane comments in the book.
Caroline probably blames Teresa for the fiasco, all while failing to recognize that her sons were adults over the age of 21 and got into a fight , period.
She rather blame Teresa instead of placing responsibility onher precious sons.
ITA – Craboline’s little precious boys had legal charges and now likely records because of their behavior in Punta Cana! Of course it was Teresa’s fault because she didn’t teach those little cherubs that you aren’t supposed to fight with strangers.
I’ve never been a Teresa fan, but Carolyn IS a bully and if she gets it into her 1/16th Italian head that Teresa has, in some way, harmed her sons or their reputations, she’s not going to let go of that. Punta Cana was a real can of worms and all were involved.
All that said, did it really take that long for Carolyn to realize that Teresa is CRAZY? Just her temper would be enough to tip me off to the fact that this woman is not fully formed (thus the forehead, or lack thereof) and would keep the people I love far from the storm.
I saw your post, I got another one posted too, wow 3 this week……
Awesome Ms.Peabody.
Quincy’s blog is back up. I KNEW she wouldn’t be able to stay away.
Watching NJ premiere right now (I missed it) and I’ve never been a Teresa fan until now. (Sort of.) Because, My heart aches for this woman. I see a woman stuck in an emotionally abusive marriage to a jerk who has put her family in a terrible position. She’s trying to maintain anything, any way she can. I feel so terrible for her. (Also as an aside, I think she’s just beautiful without makeup.) Anyhow. Just my 2 cents. I’m not excusing anything she’s ever done etc – just saying I have a completely fresh perspective on her attitude now and I really hope there is some better way for her and her children.
I agree with you 100%
If it wasn’t so awful I would advise Teresa to divorce that dead weight of a husband she has, but Teresa has shown that family is her priority so I am not sure she would take the advice.
Sometimes I wish that Joe Guidice would go the Jim Bellino way and would refuse to film, that would be a blessing for Teresa, he is just such a jerk.
I hear ya. I also wonder, if he goes to prison, it could end up being a blessing.
Sadly – IMO, Teresa is very old school in some ways – her husband’s behavior is her cross to bear.
I know it sounds awful but that might be the best that can happen to her, another thing that might help is if anybody publishes evidence that Joe cheats on her, then she would have to be done, I just think that right now with everything she is going through, that probably would drive her insane.
That POS doesn’t work, he is not the one taking care of the kids and still dares to flaunt that he went out the night before with some female friends?
If I was Teresa I would had dropped his fat ass right there on the road and force him to walk home.
LMAO, sorry but that guy really gets on my nerves.
Gia seem to see her father in a more realistic light then Teresa. It is heart wrenching. Joe talks to his daughter like she is his peer. She comes off looking more mature and responsible then her dead beat father. So sad.
Good evening everyone! I get home from work and I now have 3 Mel’s to keep track of: MTH, Mel (original) and Mel007. I can’t wait to see you all comment on each other. I will have to keep a notepad by the computer
I read Teresa’s blog and it is good. I can’t imagine that she actually wrote it but they are her thoughts. I have no favorites in the war of Mel v. Tre. I have posted over the last few days that I believe Tre was doing every thing she could to save her family from that caveman of a husband.
Regardless of what Tre claims I don’t believe she knew what Joe was doing with his company or their money. Joe would never allow her to know anything. This is guy who forged his partner’s signature on a loan document. He is a criminal.
Tre went into overdrive and alas all her hard work has paid off. Yes a few digs were made in a cookbook. BFD. She needs the money and the rest should get over it (especially Don Caroline).
Let us imagine the same happening to Mel and Joey. What would Mel do? I bet my life she would have been worse than Teresa. Save her butt and bury the rest.
I agree that Tre had no idea the crap that Joe was pulling with their money. I also think that Joe believes he’s above the law and that he can simply get away with anything he wants. I don’t think Tre has any idea how close she came to doing jail time for Joe’s stunts. Old school or not, if someone put me in that position with little children at home, I’d be outta there.
You and I both. Tre is full Italian. I am full Irish. Faith and Family above all else. (I have waiver on the church but family is always first)
I have a hard time believing she didn’t know anything. I am sure she had to know credit cards weren’t working, that collection notices were being sent, that sub contractors were coming around looking for their money ect.
While she might not know the whole truth, she knew enough to know it wasn’t right. The time Danielle got jumped by them and the cops came, she came across like she had been previously coached on how to evade questions by law enforcement. When she got home to her husband and told him about it and kept on saying “I did good Joe, didn’t I” I knew who her mentor is.
Yeah, I’m not buying that Theresa was an innocent bystander, nor is she a victim in these crimes. She was in there w/her hubby.
Tr has certainly impressed me with her work ethic and fearless pursuit of challenges on Donald Dumps competition.
…and don’t forget that she went home each and every night during filming of CA to take care of her husband and kids. You can say what you want about her, but that is a good mommy.
She’s not a good mommy to those dogs though. Did anyone mention on that day’s blog about the THREE beautiful but neglected dogs that we have never seen before but were clearly on Teresa’s property? Joe putting tons of dry food in buckets to tide the dogs over when they went to the shore?? Did any animal lovers here notice that? It was just strange. Obviously the poor doggies are not allowed in the house and were kept in that weird shack thing.
I dont agree with this. I come from an animal loving family. My father owns an organic farm and has working dogs and guard dogs that stay outside and are alone when he is away. They love him and are well treated. The show had a split second of the dogs. I don’t think anyone is qualified to make a snap judgement on how they are treated based on that.
B Side Blog has an excellent still of the dogs – they appear to be healthy, not underweight or overweight. They need to be brushed!
One does needs a good brushing.
Can you tell KooKoo that.
whose to say someone wasn’t coming over to take care of them daily. I feed my neighbors animal when they are gone.
We do the same for our neighbors.
That’s horrible, especially since I am sure all kinds of critters got into that food. Those poor animals were not only neglected but probably still starving.
I did not get a healthy vibe from those dogs. For one thing, the dog food did not look very expensive. JMO.
This is true she did and only to come home to Joe drunk and the girls not doing homework or ready for bed. I worked nights when my kids were babies and I came home to sleeping children and a clean house.
Does he have a brother?
I read Teresa’s blog and I don’t care who wrote it for her I’m glad it explained some of what is going on. After reading it I think Caroline and her gang are mad about her boys being arrested and blame Teresa and were looking for any reason to hate Teresa and out came the book so now they have a reason. From what has been presented about the book seems like nothing to hate someone for. I also think Joey is eithere jealous of Teresa or hates her and is willing to say anything to get back at her, the comment about his wife if Teresa really did say it a few months before the filming started. There were only 2 reasons to say that, one to get back at Teresa and cause trouble for her or two to give his wife an opening to pull her Camille act. The same with the comment about loaning them the money years ago, it was to embarrass her. He is a very jealous little boy who fights dirty. If I was her I’d distance myself from him and his wife. I also liked the explanation about the recipes in the cookbook. I don’t understand why they think their recipes should be included in her book, it’s her recipes with her mom. Those relatives of her’s are really starting to p*** me off big time, I’m now officially Team Teresa
I think Joey Gorga is being controlled by his wife Melissa. He is her mouthpiece. Her acting all surprised and hurt was as bad as her dancing and singing. She knows full well what is going to come out of her husband mouth at each scene because they are preplanned.
ITA. I wonder what Tre and Joey’s relationship would be like if Mel and Joe were not in the family?
ITA.
Is anyone watching OC Housewives?
Sorry Nancy, I quit OC last year. Can’t take Vicky not even on Mute.
You’re a smart woman!
I am… the comparison they’re making between Heather and hubby and Alexis and hubby is so obvious.
I hate Bravo. Alexis needs to leave that “marriage” asap!
Dont we usually live chat during new episodes? Am I missing something?
Lynn and Cusi are out having dinner tonight
Oh that’s right! Thanks I forgot!
Gretchen does not owe Vicki an apology for that night. Vicki was wrong, period.
ITA!
Happy Birthday Savannah!
Yes, Tre would never have thought of asking Joe anything about where the money comes from – so old school. But her learning curve is something to behold! I admire her.
I am having so much difficulty tolerating Bethenny – all her emoting and her frenzied being. No doubt Jason is taking a new look at things – and oh dear Bethenny, your husband doesn’t want to discuss it on Bravo TV? So he’s the idiot? On the other hand perhaps this is drama created by team Bethenny so she can write another book – the Skinny Girl Guide to Marriage. I’m getting very very tired of her. Why would you not just take that gorgeous hunk of man and go enjoy life now? The last couple years when Bethenny kept saying, “I can have it all.” My thought was, “Oh no you can’t honey.” I wonder what she will give up. And Kelly has a new book coming out? Oh that is so good. She is so hot – and Mel the hound is howling.
yeah it really bothers me that anything KKK releases can be called a ‘book’. Like ‘the bikini book’ which i have not ‘read’ but which I am sure is not a ‘book’. Andy features it prominently on WWHL which drives me insane.
I am wondering if bookies in Vegas have any numbers going on whether KKK makes it through the rest of her life without institutionalization…
HA!
I was tired of B the second episode of the season.
This is embarrassing.
That lady who is the founder of Pussycat dolls talking to Gretchen has had too much plastic surgery.
Of course Tamra had to “out” Jim’s chin implant. Very classy.
Typical.
Nancy, are you still able to get the show on east coast time? I was able to for a while, because for some reason Cox had their HD channel on EC time but they must have changed it sometime in the last week
Hi RR,
Yes but we didn’t when we lived in San Fran.
We have Direct TV now.
Cool. I am so miffed about losing my 3 hour window
I didn’t released you moved.
Oooo-ee! Y’all are havin’ a good time with the OC trailer girls, huh?
If I could stand that Slade Slimey character maybe I’d join you. But I can’t. Talk to you another day. Enjoy!
Next week looks good with Brianna… can’t wait to see Vicki’s reaction.
I was hoping we could finish with the Pussycat Dolls storyline tonight, but one more week dragged out.
I wonder what point brooks was trying to make with that affirmation story.
That was REALLY strange.
Kind of creepy. I miss Don.
I don’t know but I think took it as Vicki is the world to him. I didn’t like that Gretchen had to tell Alexis that the TV station asked her first, I thought that was mean and it hurt Alexis’s feeling. I’m glad she fixed that make-up though, that woman did a horrible job. Ugh.
The planet of the Apes comment was a bit odd. The makeup was really awful though.
Vicky is so controlling!
I laughed when in the preview Bren said “I am gonna drop a bomb”.
Vickie says I Don’t like bombs”!
To me a normal person lie Moi
Says with panic:
“Is everything alright? Tell me u. R OK”!
That’s funny.
Poor Vicki.
That was nasty of Gretchen to tell Alexis that they called her first and keep calling her. I wonder why she’s not doing it. Alexis really does need some help though and I did watch the entire segment. Gretchen was 100% correct about Alexis’ low cut top… what was she thinking?
Well that’s where I came in last episode… time to change the channel.
I don’t know if this was mentioned upthread, but i read about Kelly starting her book press, with a clip on GMA (?). The comments there are funny.
Shucks, It’s over.. Did I Miss anything good? Didn’t think so
I happen to think that as soon as Teresa’s book came out. Bravo had producers and interns reading her book looking for something to nitpick about. I think once they found “whatever” they highlighted and then showed it the other ladies. Do people actually think that Melissa, Kathy, Jac, Lauren etc. got the book and started to reading it right away? Probably not, but they were certainly tipped on the supposedly offensive content by Bravo and their producers in an effort to create drama.
Another “bring on the drama” or lose your job?
I think you’re onto something because not one of them would buy her book, they sure don’t want to support her.
I think you are onto something as no way would one of them buy the book, they sure wouldn’t want to support her.
Funny how in Tamara’s talking head she totally distancess herself from the deadbeat accusations.
So true!!!
Heather is really obsessed with Alexis eh?
Why does Heather do that?
I noticed the obsession a while back myself.
Here’s the B side blog with the photos of the dogs in Juicy’s backyard
http://www.bsideblog.com/2012/04/real-housewives-of-nj-photocap-were-going-to-jersey-shore-bitch/#more-17624
I really feel awful about the poor dogs. My 2 grown German shepherds live in the house with us, they are my constant companions. Putting that much dog food out means the idiot was just leaving them on their own, in the backyard. This is really bothering me. The dogs look terrible, trust me I know – I drive over an hour to a fantastic place to get my dogs groomed. German shepherds can be intimidating. Nobody can come to my house to feed the dogs, they are very protective of our property. But I know a great place to board them, they only board German shepherds. Same place that I go for grooming. Hope you are reading this T or Juicy, or someone that can get them this info:
Markenhaus Manor Hopewell, NJ 609-466-3130 They even will have a vet come to look at your dogs while they are being boarded. Please T you make enough money to take good care of those dogs!!
I don’t think I have ever seen them in their house. Maybe once.
I wonder if they get taken on walks? This bothers me.
Me too.
sent a tweet to Teresa, can’t find Juicy’s tweet address. Markenhaus Manor isn’t that far from them, best place in NJ for grooming/boarding German shepherds.
Maybe they will groom the husband too, or a least train the creature!
Thank you for bringing that over…and the Guidices do NOT live on a farm which is a different thing entirely. I assume their property is wired so the dogs can’t cross to that highway that is sooo close by. Just weird to not have dogs as house pets but obviously as “security”. Would you want Joe as your master?? Ugh….he probably never pets them. I shudder to think of Milania with her nasty attitude getting near one of them.
terrible poll question, I’d rather stay single and celibate than one of those choices personally.
I was reading the comments to Melissa’s blog and just read on where the person is pointing out that Melissa signed off using Teresa’s “gorgeous fan” line so I checked her final page and yep she’s copying Teresa again. Teresa is right about her.
Not siding with Gretchen in any way but I think Alexis needed to hear from Gretchen that the station was calling her. God forbid she found out later through the station and G never told her. I did feel bad for Alexis because it clearly rattled her but glad she knows and maybe it will push her to train more and aspire to do a better job.
I agree that she needed to tell her….but maybe off camera
I agree. I am glad she told on line. They signed up for reality tv. I want to know why Gretch the Betch said no. Prob no pay.
wsl – You are probably right about the pay, and that’s why Jim B wanted Alexis to give up the job!
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