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Real Housewives of Beverly Hills – Group Therapy

With less than a week until the premier of the Beverly Hills Housewives is scheduled to air, news of how Bravo will handle the death of Russell Armstrong is leaking…Bravo’s schedule shows that on Monday, September 5, they will air an episode called “Group Therapy”  at 9pm/8pm central.  Don’t hold me to that, they have changed the schedule several times.  The preview video is still blocked and no new ones have been posted.

From IVillage:

No doubt Bravo execs have been hard at work figuring out how to proceed with season 2 of The Real Housewives of Beverly Hills (Mondays, 9 p.m. ET) in the wake of Russell Armstrong‘s suicide. Now it seems they may be confronting the issue head-on.

Sources close to the show tell the Los Angeles Times that the network is planning a special episode that captures the Housewives’ various responses to Russell’s untimely death. Apparently, Lisa Vanderpump, Camille Grammer, Kyle and Kim Richards, and Adrienne Maloof had sit-downs which were filmed on Monday, — though Russell’s estranged wife Taylor Armstrong reportedly didn’t participate.

Bravo hasn’t confirmed this plan, but it may be the best way to move forward in an extremely delicate situation. One of the prominent story lines of season 2, which is still set to premiere on Sept. 5, revolved around the breakup of Russell and Taylor Armstrong’s marriage.

Gearing up to promote the new season, the network sent out promo videos to the press that included Taylor crying about her marriage and shopping for lingerie to try to spice it up. Then Russell’s body was found in his home on Aug. 15, with the death was ruled a suicide.

Through Russell’s lawyer, the family requested that any footage of Russell or those associated with him be edited out of the show, with his mother even threatening a lawsuit.

While a source at Bravo has acknowledged that the show is being re-edited in light of recent events, edit Russell out altogether is a tricky proposition; Taylor’s whole story line appears to hinge on disintegration of her relationship with her ex. To edit Taylor out of the show might be next to impossible, since she’s an integral part of the group and often in scenes with the other women.

There’s no word yet on whether the special episode about Armstrong’s death will air before or after the premiere episode. But however the special episode unfolds, there’s no doubt that the season will be a painful one for the Armstrong family.

Read More http://www.ivillage.com/bravo-air-real-housewives-suicide-special/1-a-377661#ixzz1WZCaWZgC

Sources at Entertainment Weekly say that the Bravo network filmed a sit down with Real Housewives of Beverly Hills cast mates Lisa Vanderpump, Camille Grammer, Adrienne Maloof, and Kyle and Kim Richards. Taylor Armstrong was not part of the filming. It is not yet known when the special will air. Sources say that Bravo is negotiating a separate interview with Armstrong: “Bravo wants to do a sit-down, one-hour special with Andy Cohen [Bravo executive VP and host of Watch What Happens Live and the Real Housewives Reunions].” Says another source: “They been discussing options for a week, but no programming has been formalized.” A representative for Bravo said:  “There is no dialogue with Bravo, but no decisions have been made. Anything would be conjecture.” The rep said Taylor Armstrong is “still devastated” and hasn’t personally engaged in any talks. Real Housewives of Beverly Hills will premiere as scheduled on September 5th, with parts of the show re-edited to downplay Russell Armstrong’s presence.

Opening the series with a special episode as a tribute to Russell seems to be an excellent way to handle it, if this is true Bravo is acknowledging that this happened yet still moving forward with the series, as they should.  This could be where the rumors of a sit down with Taylor originated, although this states Taylor will not participate. Somehow I have confidence that Bravo will handle this properly with dignity and respect given to Russell.  If there is one thing that Bravo does well, it is editing.  Practice makes perfect!

Congratulations to Pandora Vanderpump Todd and her groom Jason Sabo

Pandora Vanderpump Todd and her groom

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Flipping Out by BB

At the Spring Oak remodel where the contractor Randy was recently fired, intern Ashley and Jeff are discussing the plans and intern Vanina tells Jeff that Randy just pulled up. Randy says he needs his check and Jeff tells him to submit an invoice for what is due. Jeff guarantees that they are not going to agree on the amount. At West Knoll, Gage and Jeff discuss a new paint product made outside of the U.S. that contains little or no chemicals. Jeff would like to start his own paint line with this product. Jeff doesn’t want to be disappointed, but he feels this is the big fish they’ve been looking for to start his own line. Gage and Jeff have discussed buying a house and having kids and Jeff doesn’t want to depend on his design work alone. He is going to try his new paint product on some accent walls at Jeanne’s house at Durand. He shows her some paint samples and she agrees to use it on some accent walls. The paint looks like it’s textured, kind of like wallpaper. He tells Jeanne this is going to be his new paint line. She thinks it’s awesome. Jeff says Jeanne is not a bull-shitter and if she says she likes it, she really does. Jeff is excited about the prospect of having his own paint line and jokingly asks Jeanne if he can borrow some money to start it.

Randy has sent Jeff a slew of invoices and Jeff has questioned them because he hasn’t provided any receipts for materials. Randy says he does not have to explain his invoices because he does not work for Jeff Lewis Design. Gage hopes the paint product plan works so Jeff won’t have to deal with people like Randy in the future. Back at Spring Oak, Jeff and Jenni meet with a potential contractor named Roberto to take over for Randy. He brings a subcontractor with him named Juan. Jeff wants to find a replacement for Randy before he tells his clients that he fired Randy. Jeff and Jenni ask Robert a boatload of questions and Roberto sounds perfect. He’s hired and Jeff hopes he’s not too good to be true. Jeff has to tell Mike and Laura that he fired Randy after he really talked Randy up as good for the job. He calls Mike to tell him what’s going on and Mike tells Jeff he might take a flight there to see what’s happening at Spring Oak.

Jeff and Gage meet with Jeff’s dad to ask him what he thinks about starting his own paint line. Gage says he’s in the relationship with Jeff for the long haul and this business opportunity might make it possible for them to have a kid. They meet with Jeff’s dad, Tom, for lunch. He shows his dad the paint samples. They tell Tom they want to bring the product into the U.S. market. Tom thinks Jeff needs to do more research as to why other people have not latched onto this product. He tells Jeff he needs to really test it and that it’s going to be a big risk. Gage agrees with Tom that they need to be cautious, but at the same time you need to take risks if you’re ever going to grow. Jeff’s dad says it’s going to take a couple of million dollars to make a go of it. Jeff says he wouldn’t be where he is today if he had not taken some risks.

Jeff, Jenni and Gage show up at Durand with the new paint product. Jenni and Jeanne are painting a portion of the wall and talking about stroking harder and softer and making the guys laugh. I like Jeanne. Jeanne and her contractor seemed to love it, but Jeff wants to see it on an entire wall.

At Spring Oak, Jeff is talking with Roberto about rushing to get as much done before Mike and Laura get there. He asks Roberto to make sure everything is spotless before they get there. He gets Jenni to take staged pictures to send to Mike and Laura of everyone working. Jenni and Jeff are directing the workers to look busy. Meanwhile Randy sends them an e-mail saying he is placing a lien on Spring Oak for the unpaid invoice. Jeff has not gotten receipts or an explanation from Randy and calls it extortion. Jeff feels like he’s involved in a bitter, messy divorce and “she wants more money than she deserves.” Jeff calls his dad for advice about it. His dad tells Jeff to file a complaint with the Contractor’s License Board because there is no reason why Randy should not provide Jeff with a list of receipts for reimbursement. He asks Jeff if he has a regional contract. Jeff says no. His dad says Randy cannot file a lien if he doesn’t have a contract. Jeff is worried that Randy will call his clients and tell them his side of the story, which is a lie. Jeff says if Randy had been nicer about it all, he might have paid him.

Jeff is in a tizzy about the progress at Spring Oak and is going over everything with Roberto. He notices that some windows have been removed that should have been kept. Jeff instantly tenses up about the windows being gone and is a little freaked out about it. Vanina and Jeff discuss the problem and come up with the idea to make taking out the windows all Mike’s idea without telling him it’s already been done. Jeff calls Mike about it and Mike agrees the windows should come out. Crisis averted.

Back at Durand, Jeff checks out the walls that were painted with the new paint. The color looks great, but application does not look good. Jeff is very disappointed with the consistency of the paint. It’s uneven and the problem is the application the difficulty applying it. Jeff says it’s not ready to be marketed. Gage says it’s worth it to put in the time to improve the product and if it was easy, everyone would be doing it. They decide to go forth with it, but it’s going to take time.

Jeff is getting the crew to clean up Spring Oak because Mike and Laura will be coming the next day to check on the progress. Of course, Jeff and Jenni are working like dogs to help with the clean-up. Poor Jenni is covered in fiberglass insulation. Mike and Laura finally show up and Jeff is nervous. They seem very happy with the addition. Jeff is pleased with Roberto’s work. Jenni high fives Roberto and Juan.

Next week is the season finale already and it looks like Jenni may be the next one on the chopping block. I hope not. I heart Jenni.

I Heart Jenni too BB, thanks for the great recap! :)  Lynn~ xo

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Real Housewives of New York

Someone help me, what is in this woman’s head?  Her book failed, her bedding line failed and her shapewear line is already the joke of the fashion world (well our internet world anyway).  The world doesn’t need another shapewear line, so what do you suppose it’ll be this time?  Which ones of you have been tweeting ideas to Jilsy?

@Jillzy Just finalized new product line and can’t wait to show you. avail for holidays. It is what many of you have tweeted me to do..

WHO is telling her to keep doing this?  Honestly who?  I have to talk to them!  Bring them to me now!  hehe

OOps, Jill Zarin Follower watch is back!   Jill Zarin: 199,523 Followers. What happened to the 200k?  Maybe Jill’s little stunt of changing and posting reworded tweets wasn’t such a good idea after all?  

 

 

 

 

Everyone is all over this “Klout” thing lately, I don’t really understand it but it seems Jill sure does!

Simon noticed, he tweeted this:

@SimonVanKempen:  Am wondering if in the last 24 hrs some1′s tasted “sour @klout ” If u guess who use a fakename lest u ‘help’ her @klout

A fan to Jilzy:  Simon is teaming with your haters … wow!

@JillZarin:  There is no such thing as haters..they are all fans who want attention or they wouldn’t care what i say and do right? Love all my fans ..even when they say mean things sometimes. Love jill 

Jill puts us all in her “fans” list, I’ll bet Jill loves me!  I’m sure I’m on her Christmas list!

Kelly Bensimon was not a fan of my article about her Shape Magazine cover, she had a few things to say to me!  http://rumorfix.com/?s=kelly+bensimon

@KellyBensimon:  to:  @RumorFix @lynnNchicago so sweet to write about me. to disspell rumors you need facts/quotes. Facts first. I luv that u trying.

@KellyBensimon:  to:  @RumorFix @lynnnchicago why do you guys take the fun out of tv? #brokenbyhaters

@KellyBensimon:  to:  @lynnNchicago. I luv all the SHAPE speculation. Lynn, good writers start with fact. We can discuss if u need help.

That last one was my favorite and I’ve been begging her to discuss it with me ever since, I even offered to send her my phone number so we could talk but she ignored me.  I offered to donate to her favorite charity if she calls me…still nothing!  She did post this ingenius Tweet:

@kellybensimon Just saw pumpkin patch filled with pumpkins #fall 

Do you suppose she was expecting to see a pumpkin patch full of Christmas trees?  #kkbpointingouttheobvious

This article is a few weeks old, obviously posted shortly after the NY reunion aired but I hadn’t seen it until today, I apologize if you’ve all seen it already, I must have missed it but I found it interesting that the writer saw Kelly’s behavior as the worst of all!

From SocialLiteLife:

I’ve got to tell you-I was agitated by the time minute 89 rolled around last night.  Three collective hours of The Real Housewives Of New York Cityspread out over two weeks was far too much for even the most devoted of fans to take.  Even Andy Cohen looked a little winded (BTW, we don’t sympathize with you.  This is all your fault).   No one came out looking like a champion.  Not even Cindy Barshop, who barely made a peep the entire time, came up smelling like roses.  She’s as frosty and moody as the others are gossipy and maniacal.

The rotten apple award goes to Kelly Killloren Bensimon, who claimed last week that she was voted one of Cosmopolitan Magazine’s “Nicest People.” Cosmo should strip you of that win, Bensimon.  For you were the bitchiest, most immature, most condescending of the group last night.  You were worse than Regina George.

Yes, Alex McCord is odd… in a good, “Phoebe Buffay sort of way.  However, that does not give Bensimon the license to incessantly make fun of her and drop obnoxiously snotty remarks here and there while McCord talks.  Saying something cruel about someone to their face is just as bad as talking about them behind their back.  So Bensimon, don’t think you’re doing anyone a favor by being outright mean to them.  You think you’re so clever and almighty because you married up and scored big in the gene pool.  Let me tell you something-You’re not nice.  Cosmo most likely rated you based on your popularity within the confines of Manhattan and who you know.  You are probably nice to people who intimidate you, which is why you don’t say a word to Jill Zarin or LuAnn de Lesseps.  They are scary.  Alex is odd, and while she might have a great vocab, you sense weakness and so you strike.  A good person doesn’t do that.

I can’t even remember what the others said because I was so wrapped up in Bensimon’s piss-poor behavior.  LuAnn is passive-aggressive, Jill can’t seem to get her stories straight, and Ramona Singer only knows how to defend herself by striking back at her opponent head-on.

Bitches, your 15 minutes are up.  Time to go back to the social circles down in fraggle rock from whence you came.  I have never been so glad to return to scripted television.  Friday Night Lights and Netflix have joined forces to save my life.

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Yes, it's fake

Recently the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce announced that it would not be putting any reality stars on the Hollywood Walk of Fame, RumorFix got some reality stars reactions:

http://rumorfix.com/2011/08/snooki-cat-ommanney-alex-mccord-who-needs-the-walk-of-fame/

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Here’s a cute/funny recap of The Real Housewives of New Jersey by a shiny brand new blogger:

Real Housewives of New Jersey Season 3, Episode 15 Review: Drunken Gymnastics http://tvwives.net/2011/08/31/real-housewives-of-new-jersey-season-3-episode-15-review-drunken-gymnastics/

I reported last week that Kim Richards was cast to be on Dancing With The Stars, clearly I was wrong.  Don’t worry, someone on the IHJZ staff will be fired immediately!  lol   I’m sure I read it somewhere and took it as truth…oops! Sorry!

The Sioux City Journal is not impressed with the new cast (and if the Sioux City Journal isn’t happy, no one is happy!):

They could call it “Relatives of the Stars.” This year’s cast of “Dancing with the Stars” has the lowest wattage yet and features people we can’t even identify.

The controversial figures? Chaz Bono — who was Chastity Bono before a sex change — and Nancy Grace, the talk show host who probably won’t have Casey Anthony cheering her on each week.

Other relatives? David Arquette, who’s supposedly estranged from Courteney Cox, Rob Kardashian, who’s one of the reality show family, and Chynna Phillips, one-third of Wilson Phillips.

Word had spread that Ryan O’Neal was going to be on the show, too, but he wasn’t at the “press conference” held during the “Bachelor Pad” Monday night.

Instead, we’re getting Ricki Lake (could this mean a TV host smackdown with Nancy Grace?), Ron Artest, J.R. Martinez, Carson Kressley, Hope Solo (who?) and Elisabetta Canalis (double who?).

Artest, Kardashian and Arquette have had their share of negative headlines in recent years. Bono could crack a whole new audience for the show.

But what faces can we expect in the crowd?

Look for the Jenner/Kardashian crowd to take front seats; expect Carnie Wilson to show, and cross your fingers for Courteney Cox and Cher.

No Sarah Palin sightings this year. And don’t expect the “Queer Eye” guys to show for Carson. But it’s a safe bet a lot of Martinez’s “All My Children” co-stars will turn up once their day jobs end.

Bottom line? These folks better be good dancers or the season is going to be a big yawn.

Or? Maybe Artest and company will let the sexting begin.

Read more: http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/article_6f6ca745-46ac-5054-b136-ba21b6e2a94b.html#ixzz1WZKQGTgu

You just KNOW Cher will be there to support Chaz, she wouldn’t miss it!  The Kardashian’s will fill the audience the first episodes just as they did when Kim was voted out after the first dance!  Any predictions on a winner this early in the game?

From RumorFix:

Just hours after the world found out that Chaz Bono will be the first transgender man to be onDancing with the Stars, he’s already in pain!

Cher’s 42-year-old son went through his first day of full dance rehearsals on Tuesday and he had to make a stop at a CVS drug store in Los Angeles.

Photo agencies got a close up of the bag and inside were pain reliever patches!

Don’t worry Chaz, we bet Nancy Grace made the same stop Tuesday as well!

http://rumorfix.com/2011/08/day-1-rehearsal-chaz-bono-already-needs-pain-reliever-patches/

 Real Housewives come to Chicago:  LuAnn is here today!  You know I’ll be in the front row…haha  NOT!

The Magnificent Mile Shopping Festival is on the verge of getting a little catty. 

Which is not surprising, with the influx of Real Housewives scheduled to hit Water Tower Place over the next couple of weeks. You may need a TIVO-like device to keep track of it all.

On August 31, LuAnn de Lesseps from “The Real Housewives of New York” will be discussing her book “Class with the Countess,” and doing a book signing from 6-8 pm on level 3 of Water Tower Place.

If the Orange county version is more your style, head to the same spot on Sept. 1 from 6-8 pm, where Gretchen Rossi will be styling some of the lucky attendees and offering up fashion advice.

Source: http://www.nbcchicago.com/the-scene/shopping/Real-Housewives-Chicago—128676988.html#ixzz1Wbr2thsE

Until Next Time….

 

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584 Responses to IHJZ Real Housewives of Beverly Hills Group Therapy / Housewives News / Flipping Out

  1. Powell says:

    Hello,
    You know @jillzarin followers have gone down even more. 199,518. Being outed doesn’t pay.

    • Cabbie413 says:

      I wish realitytea.com picked up on the Jill Zarin and Krazy Bensimon fake tweets ..then more sites would pick it up. I’d love for them to dig their graves even deeper!

      Has the cast for rhnyc been released yet?

  2. ValleyVal says:

    RHOBH, the show must go on. If true, I’m glad they found a way to deal with the issue? We’ll see
    Flipping Out, There is no freaking way that Jeff gets rid off Jenni, he might be the star but she is the soul of the show.
    JZ, quite frankly got tired of watching her roller coaster tweeter followers count.
    KB, sorry I don’t deal with insanity, could care less about her.

  3. Sara says:

    Jillz new product line: Dog Treats – booger flavored. Actually, I don’t think she has anything – she’s fishing for ideas.

    • Toront0 says:

      Actually, I would love Skinnygirl Dog Treats for the dog who loves healthy treats but doesn’t need the extra calories. Of course, Cookie could be dressed in red on the packaging.

  4. RealMinkey says:

    Good morning, all!

    I HATE JILL ZARIN.

  5. Sara says:

    Kellz thinks we “take the fun out of TV,” because we call her and her mean girl pals out on their bullying. I guess it was all fun for them, until they were exposed for what they are. No, Kellz, you are not the nicest celebrity out there – you’re just an overgrown mean girl.

    • sonjafan says:

      ITA, that pos kelly hides behind Jillzy and Luman. Cosmos article was a tiny paragraph, nothing big…something some junior, non-educated, editor put it as a filler. These two idiots really make me crazy. I have never seen anyone like Jill, she has not filter and has entirely lost all credibility.

    • Bella Bay Beach Girl says:

      KELLY BENSIMONE IS A BULLY ~ Plain and Simple

  6. sonjafan says:

    Jillzy is getting crazier by the minute, I think KooKoo is rubbing off on her. This twitter thing and announcing another bs announcement is insanity. Jill – nothing you have done has been successful. Come on idiot, it is time to wake up and smell the coffee. Bravo are you listening – she is an embarrassment to the show! KooKoo
    will never make it on the show without her, as she is Jillzy’s puppet. I HATE JILL ZARIN!

  7. TEB2350 says:

    I want Jill’s behavior written up in Page 6! If you are on twitter please help by writing to @page6 and @Nestor post and tell them about her unethical behavior. Don’t Roget to include Kelly. She did it too!

    • TEB2350 says:

      It was supposed to be @newyorkpost. You can write your own post or RT my posts to them. Thanks for any help!

    • Trudie says:

      Why aren’t the gossip sites commenting on her behavior? How many people are in her pocket that this isn’t news?

  8. BessiB says:

    Having a tribute to Russel, to me, means a nice photo montage or a written ‘In the memory of..” at the end of the program. As Bravo is so fond of responding, “Anything else is just conjecture.”

    Having cast member sitting around discussing the matter is gossip, and they have already said how sorry they were about it in the press.

  9. BessiB says:

    I found it very interesting to hear that Randy did not have a contract. So with Jeff having said, over and over on TV, that Randy worked for him, I’m surprised that Randy did not think to go to the unemployment office request unemployment and call the IRS an report Jeff for not properly withhold and pay FICA & FUTA.

    It is arguable the Jeff did so knowingly(not unlike the Al Manzo situation of not paying time and a half). Oops.

    • jules says:

      I work for a subcontractor (in MA, not CA). While we only do work when we have a contract in place, we are a larger company than Jeff Lewis Design. My guess is that Jeff hires his subs and the sub has to provide him with a worker’s comp certificate. Then he sends them a “1099 Form” at the end of the year to show what he paid them. It is up to the subs to pay the taxes themselves. It is similar to getting your W2 except since the sub isn’t on Jeff’s payroll, he is not responsible for paying the matching employer’s taxes. If Jeff had to hire all the subs to work directly for him, his costs would skyrocket because he’d have to pay all the matching taxes and include their payroll into the worker’s comp insurance. So, in turn, he would have to charge a client much more for each job. Assuming Jeff Lewis Designs pays it’s taxes, it will be audited by it’s insurance company every year and have to produce the insurance documents and anything else required to prove that the subs are subs and not actual employees. I have to do this and we don’t hire subs at all. This is a very common practice.

      • IndianaHousewife says:

        I was typing below while you posted, it is a 1099 form. It has been awhile since the hubs did this type of work.

    • IndianaHousewife says:

      Bessi, actually it is not uncommon for the contractors or sub contractors on construction jobs to be “independent”. Which technically means they are self employed and pay their own taxes, etc. My husband worked for years as such even though there was as owner of the house building company that would tell them what time to start, what jobs to do, what location to go to, etc. All of the guys that worked for this owner were considered self employed which meant having to have a lot of liability insurance as there were usually 3-4 houses being built at a time and he could be sent out to any of them. I think it was a 1090 form that we were issued at the end of the year showing all money paid to us and then we had to file our own taxes, social security, etc.

      Jeff as the designer/consultant on a job would “hire” the general contractor, and then have approval on the sub-contractors the general wanted to use. The fact that there is no contract is fishy, as there would be no protection for either Jeff or Randy. It is considered a no-no to go behind the top guys back and ask questions or favors, but it happens all of the time.

      • BessiB says:

        According to the IRS, it is the relationship that determines whether or not the person hired is an employee or an independent contractor, not what they agree to call themselves.

        “Under common-law rules, anyone who performs services for you is your employee *if you can control what will be done and how it will be done*. This is so even when you give the employee freedom of action. What matters is that you have the right to control the details of how the services are performed.”

        “The general rule is that an individual is an independent contractor if the payer has the right to control or direct only the result of the work and not what will be done and how it will be done.”

        All I am saying is that Jeff told that Randy that he worked for him and was under his direction. That is an employee – and an at will one, at that.

    • AZGirl says:

      Randy would have to have a contract with Jeff to file the lien. A copy of it is required on the 20 Day Notices and the Materialman’s Lien. They cannot be recorded without the contract attached. Once the lien is recorded the property cannot be transferred or sold without payment and release.

      • IndianaHousewife says:

        I thought so too, which is why I said it was fishy above. I do not know the difference between a contract and what was stated in the blog as a regional contract do you? It is these aspects of the reality show that sometimes make me think is all fabricated and not at all real, just to be on a TV show.

        • jules says:

          I don’t believe Jeff hires a general contractor. I think, based upon what I’ve seen, he is the general contractor and therefore hires each sub himself. I, too, am surprised he doesn’t have a contract with each since he’s so anal but perhaps he’s worked with this guy so long he felt it wasn’t necessary. While Randy cannot place a lien on the house without a contract, he can certainly contact the homeowners to request payment and tell them that Jeff hasn’t paid him. I’ve done this in my own job but only when the general contractor has refused to pay our invoice after more than ninety days. Usually just the threat of contacting the owner directly is enough for the GC to cough up the money but I have had to call owners directly. Of course, that doesn’t mean the owner would pay Randy, especially if he doesn’t provide receipts for the material he says he’s purchased. But it would make the situation sticky for Jeff which is what I think he’s most concerned with.

          • PJ says:

            My husband works as a sub contractor consultant for a large company. You don’t have to have insurance for each job (in response to a comment up thread) you have to have insurance based on the yearly dollar amount of and type of work you do, which will cover any job you do. The insurance is based on what goes through your books, so the insurance company will audit you at the end of the year and based on that you may have to pay more for the insurance or you may get a rebate. Different kinds of work are more expensive to insure, like roofing for example is more expensive than finish carpentry. You only have to insure employees of your company; the insurance does not cover the owner of the company. You also need liability insurance as well as the workers comp.

            As long as you are a licensed builder you can file a lien. You have to be a licensed builder to own a construction company. We have never had to produce a contract to file a lien and every lien we have ever filed was done through an attorney. I’m not saying you don’t ever have to produce a contract, but we never have had to produce one to file a lien. That being said we also have never had to foreclose on a lien because usually after a lien is filed there is a settlement.

            • IndianaHousewife says:

              I did not say that you needed liability insurance for each job, I said we needed a large amount of it due to the fact that he was working on several at one time. Also they were a crew of 5-6 guys and the work was not separated into roofing, finish, it was more “today we need to set walls, so they set walls. etc.” Tomorrow maybe the roof.

              We must be in different states (we were not in Indiana at that time) because we definitely owned a construction company, from tax id numbers, taxes to payroll and he was not a licensed contractor.

              One of the things I find interesting about this blog is that what I consider to be normal practice where I live is totally different for someone else. Just like the discuss about getting your drivers license – one would somewhat expect it should be the same for all across the country.

              • PJ says:

                True things may be different in the states we live in. Where I live you by law must be a licensed builder to own a construction company. However I have known people who did own construction companies and weren’t licensed builders, but why they would want to take a chance like that I never understood. Plus you can’t file a lien in our state if you aren’t licensed so without a license you can only go to small claims court to collect.

                You can take classes through the local CA of your state to help you understand the laws of the state you live in regarding all these issues, liens, insurance everything.

                As for the insurance you do have to let the insurance company know the nature of the work you do in order for them to set your rates so any claims will be honored and for you to continue to be insured. You may have had a type of insurance that covered everything so your rates would reflect that’s and that’s why they were so high. I don’t think that changes from state to state.

                • IndianaHousewife says:

                  You are correct. We basically were able to do it all. One more thing, everyone else is probably bored with this, but around here they like you to be bonded, which basically in the smallest sense means that you have x amount in the bank to cover faulty workmanship, and they tract your performance.

                  • PJ says:

                    Being bonded isn’t necessary here for construction, especially new construction. Workers comp and liability suffice but liability needs to be at least one million.

                    Yes, unless you are in construction this is probably really boring stuff, LOL.

          • Brigid says:

            Can I chime in? I work as a concept artist for manufacturing companies and I also license my own art to be made into products. I frequently choose not to have contracts. I prefer a statement of intent via email, just so I can point to something in writing in case a problem arises but I’ve found overall contracts don’t mean diddly squat in certain kinds of businesses. I have family members that are small business owners and overall they feel the same way. If the client wants a contract we give it to them, but we rarely insist on it ourselves. Here’s why: What’s the point? If the other party doesn’t hold up their end of the bargain, I’m not going to waste time and energy suing them and demanding an audit, yadda, yadda, yadda. I just want out. Most contracts will include mandatory baloney that is designed to protect people, but often only serves to allow one party to prolong a silly situation undeservedly. If a manufacturer is honest a contract won’t “make” them pay me. They will pay me because they are honest. If a manufacturer is dishonest a contract might get in my way of leaving the relationship. So why bother? I’d rather just leave the bad arrangement and move on. If they decided to get crazy and sell my work with out my okay, I can point to a LACK of contract and send them a cease and desist. If I had a contract in place I would have to wait it out or compromise etc. I’d rather move on. Just my .02

  10. OneMoreInBoston says:

    wow- Irene lingers on- communities in VT had to have food dropped by helicopter because all the roads are impassable-people are just desperate, walking 6-7 miles just to get drinking water because roads are gone.
    No leaf peepers this year

    • vilzvet says:

      Still many thousands of people here on Long Island with no power, my poor parents and brother. Everyone is making do and getting by with generators and the kindness of others. I did some laundry yesterday for my bro and expect who ever wants to stop by to take a hot shower. We are heading out to Splish Splash for a few hours to enjoy the last gasp of summer, nice day for it. It’s right before the Hamptons start but not too far a drive at all. Have a great day everyone!

  11. WindyCityWondering says:

    It is annoying to think that Jill considers me a “fan” – I don’t like her or her behavior (on or off of tv), I would never buy anything she is selling or recommending and I have never contacted her via her FB or twitter or signed up for her super secret exclusive blog! I wouldn’t even dress up like her for Halloween. So I demand that Jill Zarin not include me in her fan base.

    • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

      Count me out of there to WCW~the gall of her to think she can rewrite history or herstory is disgusting as is She & KooKoo.
      My wish is for them to disappear & get some women we can relate to so watching will be fun again instead of torture!

      • justanothermary says:

        I don’t want to be in on her “fan” count either. This vile woman’s ego is simply not to be believed. While I wouldn’t mind having a little for self-esteem, I can’t imagine anyone would want to be so completely self-absorbed that they can’t see themselves with any clarity. Her head is so far up her ass, Ginger has to chew a hole in her belly button so she can see where she’s going.

        • WindyCityWondering says:

          snort! Poor Ginger gets all the nasty jobs!

        • Called A Princess... says:

          I think that Jill is also very insecure in many different areas of her life. I call them ‘Black Holes’ rather then ‘Stars’ because a person like her sucks the life out of anything or one she comes in contact with. Drama and deceit are her only true companions.

    • FlowerPower says:

      “I wouldn’t even dress up like her for Halloween.”

      Bwahahaha! This killed me.

    • IDon'tBelieveInUnicorns says:

      that’s exactly what she’s doing… saying that to annoy us. she’s defeated and grasping for straws. that’s what i take away from that comment. that’s why i’ve said i don’t hate her because honestly i don’t care enough about her to hate her and i don’t want to give her the satisfaction of hating her. poor despicable jill. i pity both her, moronic KKB AND anyone that dresses up as her for Halloween.

      • IDon'tBelieveInUnicorns says:

        btw, i really do HATE jill zarin. but i still don’t care about her and i do pity her. i can say i don’t hate her all i want, but even i don’t believe it.

  12. parkeril says:

    I couldn’t help but look to see what Luann could possibly teach a bunch of authentic midwesterners during her visit to Chicago. I live on the North Shore ( and grew up in CT) and there are more than a few up here that could teach her a thing or two. I won’t be wasting the time or the gas to go listen to her. Maybe someone will ask her why she couldn’t/wouldn’t make the effort to be a gracious hostess and make the blondes feel comfortable in Morocco…

    From Water Tower Place’s Website:

    “Book Signing with LuAnn de Lesseps of The Real Housewives of New York
    LuAnn “The Countess” will be chatting about her book “Class with the Countess” and doing a book signing. Cocktails and hor d’ouevres will be served.

    Bio: Raised in Connecticut—half French Canadian, half Native American—Countess LuAnn de Lesseps worked as a nurse before she started modeling. On her first trip to Europe, she was awed by the lifestyle of the Italians and stayed, eventually becoming a television personality. At a dinner party in Gstaad, she began a fairytale romance with Alexandre Count de Lesseps, a French aristocrat of the Suez Canal dynasty, who made her a countess. Now she shares her savvy advice and her inspiring story in Class with the Countess, featuring:
    The Art of Being Yourself (In Any Situation)
    with tips for making a stellar first impression, exuding self-confidence, and dressing with style
    The Art of Making Other People Comfortable
    covering dazzling opening lines, table manners, and how to entertain with ease and grace
    The Art of Seduction
    brimming with ways to make yourself alluring to everyone you meet, including how to make a man feel good about himself. “

    • Trudie says:

      I watched her today on that talk show. She said that when she was a geriatric nurse she fell in love with the old people. Kind of explains her marriage to the Count.

    • Sara says:

      Hmmm…no chapter on The Art of Not Associating with Riff Raff. I guess that explains her friendship with Jillz and Kellz.

  13. vilzvet says:

    Still many thousands here on Long Island with no power, including many of my family. Oh well, this house is open for hot showers and laundry. We’re getting out of Dodge for the day, going to Splish Splash water park, perfect day for it. Hope everyone has a great day. P.S. Great blog as always Lynn! Can I get an I Hate Jill Zarin!

  14. T-REX says:

    @JillZarin: There is no such thing as haters..they are all fans who want attention or they wouldn’t care what i say and do right? Love all my fans ..even when they say mean things sometimes.

    Well Jzilla then stop making your minions come over here and call us haters! In addition, stop saying you are going to shut this “hate blog(your words) down, stop saying anyone from these boards is stalking or cyber-bullying you!

    PS I HATE JILL ZARIN AND WILL NEVER, EVER, EVER, EVER, IN A BILLION YEARS BE A FAN OR DELUSIONAL LUNATIC!

  15. smompy says:

    “They are all fans who want attention or they wouldn’t care what i say and do right?”

    But, Jill, you don’t say or do *anything* right:)

    And what does wanting attention have to do with caring what some random person says or does? Wanting attention and caring what others say are two separate, unrelated concepts. That’s tantamount to saying, “People wouldn’t eat Rice Krispies unless they wanted to roller skate,” or “People wouldn’t get their teeth cleaned unless they wanted to play the banjo.” But yes, there’s no denying it…we are all big Jill Zarin fans. And every night monkeys fly out of my butt.

    BTW, shut up, Kelly.

    • Viewer 5 says:

      Wow. Great minds think alike. ^^ (((TRex)))

      I’ve written it before, and I’ll write it again: either JZ has the worst handlers ever, or she’s so out there that she can’t resist tweeting herself into such a big mess that no decent PR firm could possibly dig her out of.

      It’s sad. With a little self-possession and restraint, she could have built a truly loveable persona for herself. But no. Her inexperience and lack of sophistication has placed her in the realm of soon becoming (yet) another reality has-been.

      I’m serious. It really is kinda sad, and frustrating! Gawd! Her self-destruction knows no bounds!

      • T-REX says:

        You know I used to think Jzilla (season 1) was a fairly intelligent person, well she has certainly blown that theory out of the water and frankly into the universe. Either she is just plain out stupid, or she has hired some really stupid folks to give her advice, because she steps in the proverbial “sh*t” everytime she opens her mouth(or twitter mouth). I think she also has “diarrhea of the twitter” and just posts there non-stop without even thinking about what she is posting.

        • Viewer 5 says:

          Wasn’t she adorable way back when? Having never been famous (duh) I don’t know the ramifications of fame and image on one’s psyche. There was a famous song, way back when, whose chorus said: “No one ever said Pablo Picasso was an assh*le” -and then of course, years later, it came out that he was basically horrible to most everyone he met.

          But celebrities with personality (not talent) need to be handled with utmost care so their real personalities are never shown.

          I guess reality TV brings out the worst in those tenacious enough to grab for that sort of fame in the first place.

          Next thing you know, everyone’s blowing smoke up their ass and trying to make a dollar off them, telling them how great they are. Train wreck in progress.

          Pardon long post…

          • Sara says:

            “But celebrities with personality (not talent) need to be handled with utmost care so their real personalities are never shown. ”

            Best observation ever! I’m going to be quoting this, V5, if you don’t mind.

        • MaryE says:

          I have mentioned this before, but I think Jill is (sorry) reasonably intelligent. She just is SO full of her self and SO madly in love with herself that she truly believes she can do no wrong. That’s she’s invincible and she certainly has her enablers out there in the press/social media that support her wacked beliefs.

          • Sara says:

            Did you just describe the classic characteristics of a narcissist?

            • MaryE says:

              I guess I did, but does that always include the empowerment Jill derives from her self love? I don’t know that answer

              • Sara says:

                I think so – the sense of empowerment or invincibility, as you described it. I believe that’s how they describe it in the DSM.

                • Called A Princess... says:

                  Jill may have a few DSM illnesses to deal with. She may also be rather depressed. Her mother seems very unhappy, from what I have seen on the show, and depression can run in families.

    • We Can Never Be Friends says:

      LMAO @ your whole post but specially “monkeys fly outta my butt” hahaha

      • MazelnIndy says:

        That was one of my mom’s choice sayings. It’ll happen when
        monkies fly out of my butt.

        Smompy, maybe we’re related.

        • Rory B Bellows says:

          originally i viewed jill and bethenny as lavern and shirly now jill is more like squiggy….

  16. CdnFillie58 says:

    I’m sitting at my desk cracking up…here’s a joke for the day

    An old farmer wrote his son in prison. “This year I won’t be able to plant potatoes because I can’t dig the ground, I know if you were here you would help me.” The son wrote back, “Dad, don’t think of digging the ground because that’s where I buried the guns.” Police read the letter and the very next day the ground was dug by police looking for guns, nothing was found. next day the son wrote again, “Now plant your potatoes Dad, it’s the best I could do from here!

  17. WindyCityWondering says:

    The last couple of episodes have shown Jeff not to be a saavy businessman, to be rather indecisive and not willing to research a product he may/may not want to brand. And there is nothing positive to say about how he treats his staff or sub contractors. Flipping Out could be a showcase for Jeff – but I don’t see what is needed to attract new clients.

    • We Can Never Be Friends says:

      The way he treats his staff and his OCD issues makes me cringe thinking of him adopting a child. I never tried to adopt so don’t know anything about the screening process but I hope it’s tough as nails.

    • Viewer 5 says:

      Yah, the paint thing was rather weird.*

      You can’t make that much money with a paint line, unless you are this man:
      http://www.donaldkaufmancolor.com – and they add their own pigments to (I think) Pratt & Lambert paint. Delicious.

      Anyway, JL says it’s from overseas, but by whom? Ralph Lauren has notoriously difficult to apply colors and finishes. And I think that’s Sherwin Williams, USA. Weird.

      *Thanks to Baroness for the recap; I recorded and haven’t watched yet.

      • Sara says:

        The Ralph Lauren line does have a bad rep – nice colors, not a nice finish and very difficult to work with.

  18. We Can Never Be Friends says:

    I don’t think Ill hires any handlers. She wouldn’t listen to them if she did. Money down the terlet. She wouldn’t even listen to a dog expert to help poor Ginger.

    • RealMinkey says:

      ITA. She’s a narcissist, and her poor choices and idiotic behavior can’t be blamed on anyone but her.

    • Sara says:

      Her only handler is Bawby and he signs off on whatever pops into her head and out of her always-running mouth.

  19. FlowerPower says:

    This Klout thing is kinda fascinating. I googled it to see what I could find and there’s a lot out there discussing whether or not it’s a valid indication of social relevance/influence. One consistent thread through the articles is how easy it is to “game the system” and inflate your klout score. Simon seemed to be playing with this.

    This is from one of the articles I found:
    Klout also has limitations
    Klout only slices Twitter and Facebook (that’s like ranking American writers by focusing only on those who have published essays of less than 10 pages and in Sunday papers).

    It lacks sentiment analysis, which means that if a ton of people say nasty things about you, it will only pump up your influence, as was demonstrated recently during the Ken Cole incident. Owyang also gives the example of the “sleeping Comcast technician”, whose video blasted a gaping hole in Comcast’s reputation. The video was uploaded by someone who had practically zero influence online. Same for the person who uploaded the famous Taco Bell rats video, for Dave Carroll and his “United Breaks Guitars” video and many more.

    The influence measured by Klout is of a generic nature. A person’s high score may or may not be relevant to the specific industry niche that matters to you. If you sell medical equipment to lung surgeons, Justin Bieber’s influence will not have any impact on your business.

    Klout is vulnerable to gaming: the score can be increased by engaging in behaviors that have really nothing to do with being influential. According to Trey Pennington, you can game your Klout score by manipulating important people to talk about you, staying away from people who are not important, and making sure that a lot more people follow you than you follow. And you want to always be on the lookout for things that are trending, jump on them at the moment they appear, and ride the wave of buzz.
    If these are the behaviors that can achieve the kind of influence that Klout rates highly, what does this say for the nature of the influence that Klout assesses?

    The entire entry is here:
    http://seamlesssocial.com/social-crm/influence-marketing/do-you-have-klout-or-are-you-just-loud/

    • Viewer 5 says:

      Thanks for the info.

      I dunno – what with all the hoops famous and semi-famous people have to jump through these days to maintain cash and influence… well, let’s just say that a smoothly Botoxed forehead won’t cancel out a stroke due to stress, will it.

    • T-REX says:

      In addition, as in the case of one Jzilla, the score doesn’t indicate whether your score is because you are hated or liked, just that your name is out there. As someone pointed out yesterday, I am sure Charlie Manson, the Unabombmer Ted Kaczynski, and Hitler all have pretty good Klout scores, however I don’t think that advertisers or anyone in PR would want these names attached to any products or campaigns. This is the very reason Marketing firms aren’t using this Klout information at this time, there are numerous, reputable, long-term marketing companies out there, that provide way more valuable information to Companies when considering marketing campaigns.

      • Viewer 5 says:

        Egad. I used to work in branding in nyc in the 90′s (before it was a household word; trust me.) There was never a model or spokesperson used who wasn’t thoroughly researched and tested; not selected on a whim.

        Then again, these days, with all the overseas manufacturing, it’s easy for a 4th tier fashion conglomerate to create a line (squeez!) geared for a certain audience. (They think we’re fat!)

        Anyway, the second anyone googles JZ (and they will google, not just say ‘oh hey! KLOUT says she’s great!) there’s too much hatred that comes up about her. She is truly a polarizing person; no tweet will override fact.*

        *”Fact,” Kelly. Is that a big enough word for you?
        #shutupkelly

        Pardon snark. Couldn’t resist, given my choice of words.

      • FlowerPower says:

        It kinda makes ya wonder who’s telling her that it doesn’t matter. She seems to have bought into the whole idea–as though people really don’t notice.

        Personally, if her name is attached to a product/company, I’ll avoid it. I want nothing to do with anything she’s representing. I almost feel bad for the companies who are buying her bs, thinking that she’s a good spokesperson. Almost. Most of the time I think if they’re that stupid, they deserve her.

      • Jezzibel says:

        *raises paw* twas me

    • FlowerPower says:

      I don’t know why I find this so interesting, but I kinda do. Companies can’t ignore social media networking, so they’re looking for ways to use it that will profit them in the long run.

      This is another interesting post:
      http://www.businessinsider.com/will-ferrell-stephen-king-and-the-new-influencer-class-2011-8

      People are reaching out to companies like klout to help market their products by getting “people with influence” online to talk about their stuff….so, if you’re deemed influential you might get advanced copies of books or movies….all to get the buzz started by the “right” people.

      I can see why Jillzypoo is so desperate to get her numbers up. She’s still looking for that fabulous circle of friends.

  20. Pghemtchick says:

    Well two quick thoughts: Lynn you super-fan you! I heard in my fabulous circle of friends that you have a closet in your house dedicated to Jillzilla! I even heard MamaElsa made you a special doll for in there ;) please tell her to send one my way please! Lol All kidding aside, I hate Jill Zarin.
    The second thought: ask and ye shall receive:

    @kellybensimon
    @hauswif @LynnNChicago we can talk anytime. I’d rather help you write honestly than speculate. All you need is one quote to build a story.
    2 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®
    Kelly K. Bensimon
    @kellybensimon
    @whoaPussycat @LynnNChicago I love when people want to better themselves and are positive. Snark doesn’t sell, facts do. Send me your email.
    2 hours ago via Twitter for BlackBerry®

    Good luck with the exculsive!

    • Viewer 5 says:

      Wow. That Columbia Continuing School of Education course in journalism really taught her a thing or two, didn’t it?

      • Pghemtchick says:

        Lol. Oh she’s so edumacated that she’s taught her dog…

        Bear Bensimon
        @ILoveBearKKB
        @LynnNChicago @kellybensimon You can talk to me Lynn. Dm me!! xooxoxoxo
        30 Aug via web
        I’m still giggling that Kelly blocked me. It was prior to me sending her anything negative. Which makes me believe she reads the blog.

      • MaryE says:

        Sounds like Jill…”please send me your email”

    • shiny14 says:

      Don’t you love that ‘All you need is one quote to build a story”? It better be a hell of a long quote or else a writer is going to have a very very short story.

    • FLG says:

      If I were Lynn, I think I would turn absolutely RED upon reading that Kelly wanted my email address. :oops:

    • Sara says:

      An exclusive interview between KKB and our friend Lynn? Oh, that just sounds like a whole barrel full of Krazy! I’d love to see Lynn do it for shitz and giggles – great fodder for blog chuckles.

    • LynnNChicago says:

      Kelly deleted ALL tweets to me

  21. Midwesthousewife says:

    Take the fun out of TV? I think that happened when I watched Kelly have a breakdown – that was the ULTIMATE in sucking the joy out of TV viewing. What is no fun? Observing someone in desperate need of help surround herself with people who encourage disturbing behavior.

    A close second is watching JZ crossing that thin line between reality and believing her own propaganda. It is no fun watching her lose all her friends in favor of a nut case and then encourage crazy to act like a lunatic.

    I cannot even watch these two on TV because they are the vampires of fun. The only joy I find from this show is due to Lynn and our merry band of snarkers.

    • Viewer 5 says:

      Yep. Echo. Seconded.
      Toast!
      *picks up coffee cup*

    • FlowerPower says:

      ITA. I’ve given up on most of the Housewife shows now. Haven’t decided whether I’ll try watching BH (leaning toward not), but I still love reading the blogs and all the comments. Just can’t stomach watching these women. Would never want any of them in my home in real life, why let them in via TV?

      • WindyCityWondering says:

        In the same place – don’t want to watch the shows because they are just not entertaining, but I could never give up this blog cause you all make me laugh too damn much!

  22. bluemonarch7 says:

    Thanks Lynn for all that you do. I am no longer watching shows on Bravo. Cancelled cable after the first New York reunion this season. Over it. Too much second hand embarrassment. I’m still coming here to your site to read the recaps. Hopefully, soon, I will be able to let go completely. Its a distraction from my personal life/thoughts. An addiction that doesn’t serve my spirit. I guess I am fascinated with these women and their personality disorders but I feel like if I watch it then I’m supporting the craziness. How does Andy sleep at night?
    Please continue to post Jay’s funny comments. Love him.

  23. FLG says:

    I wonder what Jillzy has up her sleeves for product wise by the holidays? Did Kelly get her a job picking those pumpkins? I think Kelly would be pretty hard to locate in a patch of beautifully ripe orange pumpkins. Don’t you? I still wonder if Jillz is going to come out with a “designer” line of dog leashes? I’m convinced it would be something like that. Something that she never actually uses herself. We’ve seen what happens when she uses her skwishware. Racing stripes and speed bumps…. Mr. Tigre is relieved she doesn’t own a cat, so he can continue to enjoy his cat chow without being forced to look at a photograph of Jillzy on the bag or box. After seeing the airbrushing that Kelly received for that magazine cover, I wonder what Jillzy is going to look like after they airbrush her for a product photo glam shot. (If there is some sort of new product….)

    • Jezzibel says:

      I don’t think she has anything lined up, I think she’s grasping at straw. Saying and doing are not mutually exclusive in Jills case.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Kelly thinks in iconic, Norman Rockwellian terms and sadly still messes it up – orange pumpkins are not a sign of fall! Jill is the perfect foil for Kelly – the yin and yang of lives that are emtpy crapfests bonded over soothing lies and wishful thinking.

    • shiny14 says:

      Jill is probably still looking around to see what the other housewives are doing and trying those things. (Bethenny got her shapewear line out so much faster than Jill did, that you have to wonder if Bethenny was planning it before and mentioned the idea to Jill, who then decided she’d have a line of her own.)

      With any luck, the new venture for the holidays won’t be a CD of her singing christmas carols (as an expert on Christmas) or reading the Christmas story in her distinctive “vocal style”.

      Maybe new Squeezies with blue bows (recycled from the unsold bridal line) for Channukah and red/green bows for Christmas. We all know how much grown women love to match their underwear to the holidays….Not!

      More likely she’s looked at what actually made money: Alcohol by Housewives. She would do Bubbles: Champagne, of course, and it will be over-priced. The only other option is Baubles, because she wouldn’t foresee the obvious jokes.

      • shiny14 says:

        No offense meant to any of you who like to match your underwear to the holidays ;) Any ideas for labor day/

      • shiny14 says:

        that interview about squeezies sounds like squeezie leggings are next….fat ankles, here we come.

      • FLG says:

        Considering how Jillzy always insists that she doesn’t consume alcohol, I think it would have to be some type of non-alcoholic Champagne. I do wish LuAnn Countess Can’t Carry A Tune High Horse would come out with a drink that would render me temporarily deaf when ever one of her tunes might happen to be playing. Especially if LuAnn is still planning on releasing a Christmas CD. Fortunately I have never heard either one of her two releases played on the radio.

        • Sara says:

          What? The Lullz is coming out w/a Holiday CD? I was going to joke about it, but I didn’t realize she was actually going to do it. Does her redheaded pal plan to perform on the CD w/her? What am I saying, of course she does….

      • Trudie says:

        According to Jill: “I’ve been in the hosiery business for my entire career. I’m an expert at hosiery and shapewear and understand what people want.” http://askmissa.com/2011/08/30/skweez-couture-an-exclusive-interview-with-jill-zarin/

        She is just an expert at every goddam thing, isn’t she?

        • T-Rex says:

          OMG! Okay, I am T-rex, I too am well versed in the Hosiery business! Been wearing tights since I was a toddler(my mom has pics). I have been wearing big girl panties since I was in Kindergarten and been wearing shapewear since it came out! I know what women want because I was once a size 20 and now a size 6 so I have been a lot of sizes in between, so can offer my opinion on what shapers work at certain sizes. I have worked in clothing stores, in addition I was in the marketing industry for 20 years! Whew, maybe I need to move from my career now into shapewear since based on the Jzilla model I am uber-qualified to create a shapewear line!

        • Sara says:

          If she REALLY understood what people wanted, she’d go away.

    • Lillybee says:

      I think she is talking about her girdle line because nothing says holiday gifts better than a girdle.

    • Sara says:

      Kellz lost in a pumpkin patch – too funny!

  24. fargo fan says:

    Does anyone know a good way to reach Shape so we can express our disgust about Kelly on the cover and the bad photoshop job? I dont want to sign up for any of their crap either just to put a comment on their disgusting behavior, just send them an email about why I will never pick up their publication again.

    I dont have twitter, has she changed texts again since the post about it? Has anyone tried tweeting her something negative and had it turned into a positive?

    • bluemonarch7 says:

      SHPcustserv@cdsfulfillment.com

      Hope this helps. Just sent them an email of disgust. Thanks fargo fan for inspiring me to do the same.

      • fargo fan says:

        I wonder if emailing some advertisers would help too :) Perhaps boycotting their product because they advertise in that magazine with Crazy Kelly would make Shape do something. Not like I care that much but I thought it worked with some tv show before and I dont really have anything to do today.

      • Bella Bay Beach Girl says:

        I just posted the following:

        “I am appauled that your reputable magazine would act so shamelessly in putting Kelly Bensimone’s name on that photo. She sends 20 year old pics of herself to playboy and acts like they were just shot and now this? You should post a retraction or at the very least an apology to your readers! I will no longer read your magazine.”

        I think everyone who feels strongly about this should send them a “message”

      • Gina says:

        Thanks for the Shape E-mail address. I just sent my letter of disgust too. How could they put a metally ill bully on their cover?!

  25. Adgirl says:

    I wish Bravo would not run a “special” about Russell’s passing.

    Really, there is nothing to “learn”. A man made a huge mess of his life. He did a lot of things that hurt others and himself. When the bottom was near, his spouse bailed, making the usual horrid statements on her way out. He was humiliated & in deep anguish. He then did something to quiet his pain.

    This is exactly the same scenario as my ex (only his was 1000x worse in every way). There is nothing pleasant about this situation. I can’t imagine that a “special” conversation with his estranged wife’s co-workers about a man who was basically a prop in this show will help anyone.

    I don’t blame Bravo or Taylor. Sure they possibly made things worse – but the financial strain that is the base source of his stress was 100% Russell’s creation. This is a very common reason for marriages to break up and an environment for suicide to exist. If anything this is a scenario that people need to avoid in the first place.

    His mother has already stated that she doesn’t want to see him on tv. I wonder how Russell’s children will feel about this in a few years. I know how my children would feel. This is the aspect that bothers me.

    The poster up thread who suggested a written acknowledgement preceding the show had it right – IMO.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      IMO, Bravo is cheesy to do a “special” with the RHBH wives regarding Russell. They were not close to him, they were not really friends with him and beyond a RIP message and cutting out the parts with Russell in them, it is disrespectful to his family and children to make him into something he was not.

      • Adgirl says:

        Totally. I think the family will feel this is to assuage the participant’s guilt rather than to “help” anyone.
        Someone on the board yesterday felt strongly that all of the footage should be shown as originally planned to hold Taylor accountable publicly. Taylor for all of her faults had no idea this was a possible outcome. It would only serve to make her even more depressed. Kennedy needs her mommy. It’s really not the public’s place to hold her or anyone else accountable.

        If Bravo wants to make the edited footage available to the family privately that might be nice. Hopefully, the family would choose not to view it. There is plenty of heartbreak and blame already.

      • BessiB says:

        And, I don’t care how these women “really feel” about the whole thing. The expressed their sympathy in the press all ready. Just put up an ‘In Memory Of’ thingy at the end of the show and be done.

        Is it too soon to use the dead horse analogy?

      • Called A Princess... says:

        If there is a wrong way to do this show on Mr. Armstrong, Bravo and Andy Cohen will find it and make it happen.

    • MaryE says:

      I asked yesterday, but does anyone know if there is a connection between Russell’s friend/partner’s suicide shortly asfter Russell’s?

      • Adgirl says:

        No one knows. I think it’s an unpleasant coincidence. The rumors are ridiculous. If he had a *relationship* he probably would have been in a better frame of mind.

        • MaryE says:

          I agree it probably wasn’t a intimate relationship. Just wondering how closely their finances were tied.

          • emt2 says:

            They were both members of Tiger 21, an exclusive club for businessmen with assets of over 20 million.

            What I found interesting is Taylor’s friend who was with her when Russell’s body was discovered and made the 911 call, was facebook friends with Alan Schram and was the CEO of beautyticket.com, Taylor and Russell’s most recent business, I think. He was the one who told the dispatcher that Russell hanged himself, not that he was found hanging.

            Maybe, I’m a conspiracy believer but I really believe that he and Russell were both murdered.

            • T-REX says:

              Interesting, I love that channel Discovery ID with all the murder mysteries, so I am always into the conspiracy theories. I did find it odd that NEITHER of them left a note, you would think that one of them would, especially since they have children.

            • Sara says:

              Very interesting!

            • Called A Princess... says:

              I think you could be right. I would also think that a secret club might have it’s own ways of dealing with theft or loss of money. Taylor may be afraid for her own safety, at this time.

          • TrillianAlice says:

            The FBI is looking into their entire operation.

  26. Rory B Bellows says:

    ed o’neal got a star katey segall and sophia vergara were on either side of him as he got it, says alot about him as a person. conversly jennifer aniston recently got one and NONE of her castmates showed, chelsea handler was the MC. i have no info as to why but thats just sad….

    • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

      Seriously? AL BUNDY has a star and Jillzy doesn’t. OOOOOO, I see exploding brain matter all over the walls of her “fabulous” apartment! Her head is gonna spin right around and then explode!

      • Dame Rhetorica says:

        Duchess! You’ve got your game! You are too smart!

        NAME THAT BRAND NEW TUNE!
        How many songs can we adapt to this message:______________________. Name the song & post the lyrics. Chorus seems to work best.

    • RealMinkey says:

      Besides Married with Children ( which like it or not, was a classic), Ed O’Neal is a wonderful actor. He deserves it!

    • Rory B Bellows says:

      while i really do like this woman i don’t think the limelight is for her anymore, in this ‘cast’ situation i think they can edit her to always seem to look untroubled. a live show would be far too tough on her whatever her issues.

      • Dame Rhetorica says:

        You may be right Rory. She is a fragile person. I just hate she didn’t get something she had her heart set on.

    • sony4ou says:

      No words..

    • Zarout! says:

      I love how one of the requirements is that you have children living at home. Nothing like making sure there’s children to exploit too. Ridiculous!

    • Need a Hobby says:

      More trainwreck TV if any network actually picks up this show. Kim G?

    • FLG says:

      That is the worst news I’ve had all week. Kim G? No way in hell will I watch her. The stench of her being in Fort Lauderdale still hasn’t cleared.

      • FLG says:

        Hey, LuAnn qualifies to be on that show!

        • FLG says:

          Kelly does, too! Jillzy doesn’t since she’s still married to Bawby and Ally has moved away for school. Hmm there may still be a TV future for LuAnn and Kelly after all……

    • Butters'Mom says:

      Like the old saying, “what if they threw a war and no body showed up?”. Let us make a pact that no one watch that hideous Kim G. on anything. Stick a fork in it she is done.

    • Adgirl says:

      The horrible part is “you must have children living at home”. Wha?? So they can be further torn apart by their parents ruined marriage?

      Oh, and good luck getting the ex to sign off on that – just ask Dina.

    • Pghemtchick says:

      Say it isn’t so….

    • T-REX says:

      Okay for schlitz and giggles, decided to google this so called company Stand up Entertainment, and well not sure what the heck this company is, but good luck trying to find information on this so-called company. I don’t think you will hear much more about this in the next few months, just another agency trying to jump on the bandwagon of Reality TV, don’t think any legitimate TV networks are involved.

    • Sara says:

      Ugh – an entire season of the same BS we saw at the Gorga’s Baby Jeezus Party? No Thanx. I can think of at least 20 other things, I’d rather do. Like cleaning out closets.

      • justanothermary says:

        I rather suck a urinal cake than watch that horrible woman on TV. Put me on the “no way” list.

        • justanothermary says:

          If this were to actually happen, I hope it’s on some obscure network that we don’t get in the midwest. I’d hate to be innocently flipping channels and be accosted by that woman.

          • Sara says:

            I take comfort by telling myself that even Bravo would pass on this completely uninteresting, attention-starved woman. But….wait….what? Bravo? The station gave us Patty Stencher (shoves her mercilessly down our throat), Jillz, Cindy whoever, introduced us to KimG in the first place…God help us all.

    • WindyCityWondering says:

      Apparently Kim G has the money to pursue some type of show that would make her the star she wants to be. She could recruit – Kelly and LuAnn!

    • RealMinkey says:

      Ackkkkkk! The real divorcees of Northern Jersey starring Kim G? No thank you!

  27. chickee says:

    I’ve seen some people here comment on “Frito Feet.” and came across this article on http://www.mentalfloss.com so I thought I would pass it on.

    “So why does it happen? The skin of most animals is home to a lot of microbes. Dog feet are a great place for bacteria and yeast to take up residence because there’s a lot of moisture and little to no air circulation in the folds and pockets of skin between toes and foot pads. Bacteria flock there and reproduce with exuberance.

    All these micro-organisms give off their own distinct odors (they’re what give us BO), and the popcorn/corn chip smell on some dogs could be the fault of yeast or the bacterium Proteus, which are both known for their sweet, corn tortilla smell. Or it could be the bacterium Pseudomonas, which smells a little fruitier, but pretty close to popcorn to most noses.

    Like I said before, it is perfectly normal for there to be a lot of bacteria on and in your pet—and on and in you. It’s part of life on Earth and there are worse things these bacteria could be doing besides making your dog smell like delicious snacks. Frito Feet is no cause for alarm unless the smell is really overwhelming. That could be a sign of an infection and should be checked out by your veterinarian.

    http://www.mentalfloss.com/blogs/archives/58595#ixzz1WctD1Yzd

    • Dame Rhetorica says:

      I love that smell!

      • T-REX says:

        While I don’t like “frito feet” smell, I am a sucker for “puppy breath”, it is so sad when the puppies lose that smell.

    • TLM says:

      If anyone ever wants to eat Fritos again after that explanation, you must have a cast-iron stomach. I was never a fan of them, but when my cat smelled like them, the association alone made me repulsed by them. Here, have some B.O. chips! Ick.

  28. Butters'Mom says:

    I don’t know if anyone has said this…I was looking at the “before” picture of KooKoo and you know that weird circle bump thing? I think Koo Koo switched her birthcontrol to the Nova ring and swallowed it and it got stuck.

  29. MaryE says:

    Does anyone have ideas why Kim didn’t go to the Vanderpump wedding? Was she not invited/couldn’t go/didn’t want to go??

  30. MazelnIndy says:

    I’m trying to remember who told the funny story about giving directions to someone when they had a missing tooth and had on their “at home clothes”.

    • Dame Rhetorica says:

      I’m thinking QBB or FOD.

    • Sara says:

      I thought it was Pghemtchick

      • MazelnIndy says:

        No, it wasn’t her. But thank’s for playing.

      • Pghemtchick says:

        Lol not me. I don’t own booty shorts, but the girls have been flashed a few times thanks to my brothers 22 month old realizing I hide my cell in there. Lol

        I was thinking mookiesmom for some reason.

        • Sara says:

          Yes! It was mookiesmom – I remember laughing at the name.

        • Mookies1mom says:

          Hey! They are only booty shorts because they are actually sleep wear. I would never flash my butt on purpose in public. ;)

          • Pghemtchick says:

            I didn’t mean any disrespect. :( I don’t wear shorts capris yep. shorts are a no no when you have legs like mine lol.

    • Mookies1mom says:

      Ummm, hate to admit it but that was me. Good news though! Went to the oral surgeon and he said I have enough bone growth so now I can have the permanent tooth placed. So happy about that. Now I just need to dentist’s receptionist to figure out that 1. No, I don’t want my teeth cleaned just yet, 2. Yes, they do have full x-rays, 3. Yes, I know what a cavity looks like and I have to have this one done before they put the implant in permanently (otherwise they won’t be able to reach it) and 4. Yes, I would like the permanent tooth installed. Made me want to bang my head on my desk. While, I’m not Jill and therefore not a dentist I have become painfully aware on WTF goes on in my mouth!

      Sorry ’bout that rant. But, yes that was me in my “I don’t give a damn clothes because it’s so hot” while not wearing my spacer that has my false tooth on it.

  31. fargo fan says:

    Hey all-
    If you are looking to donate to a charity in the near future, please keep in mind Fargo’s friends in Minot, ND, who saw some of the worst flooding in history. Ordering a T-Shirt or a $10 donation, any little bit helps. The news sure shows up to catch the tragedy happen, but seems to not care later when there is work to be done.
    http://www.minotrising.com

    • justanothermary says:

      Thank you for this Fargo. I’m from Minot and was there recently. The devastation is heart breaking. The home I grew up in seems to have survived, but my grandparent’s house is a total loss.

    • FLG says:

      “The news sure shows up to catch the tragedy happen, but seems to not care later when there is work to be done.” So true. Sad, but true. Having been through it, my heart goes out to all those left to deal with what nature can dish out.

  32. EcruFuchsiaIndigo says:

    So many of you people lead sad and pathetic lives. Posting on a hate blog all day is a cry for help.

  33. EcruFuchsiaIndigo says:

    Jill is a authentic and charitable person who is successfully building an amazing brand. Why tear her down? You constant antics and vile banter will only succeed in making YOU look desperate and out of touch with reality. Just look what happened to the person who used to post here as the WallStreetLady. Stalking celebrities is creepy and illegal.

    • fargo fan says:

      Guess that answers that, you are Jill.
      Lying about being an authentic and charitable person with an “amazing business” makes one look desperate and out of touch.

    • FLG says:

      Big Lots has crayons on clearance for the next two days. Unfortunately it’s not the box with the built in sharpener. I thought you might be interested in case you need to refill a few colors. I hope you find that helpful. 8)

      • Adgirl says:

        LOL. Dull crayola crayons.

      • T-REX says:

        FLG,

        How is Mr Tigre liking the new house? How are you and Mr. FLG liking your new digs?

        • FLG says:

          We really like the new house. Mr. Tigre took to it very quickly. I was very surprised and pleased at how quickly he adapted. I did have that run in with Countess LuAnn the neonate pigmy rattlesnake I discovered in our lanai, but other than that, things have gone quite well. I escorted Countess LuAnn out of the lanai with a broom and I told her to slither back to the Hamptons. I don’t kill them, I just show them out. I hope she won’t be back.

    • Embla says:

      Sorry, can you repeat? I did not hear you the first time. Did you say something about celebrities?
      Who´s the celebrity here?

    • lizzielou says:

      At least I don’t have to photoshop the hell out of myself when I wear a bikini… like some people.

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      “Just look what happened to the person who used to post here as the WallStreetLady”

      what happened to her? She’s rich beyond her wildest dreams, has a major company named after her and has a hunk a hunk o’ burning love for a husband- and also has true and authentic friends who love her – none of which Jill has.

      sign me up please.

  34. WindyCityWondering says:

    We haven’t heard about Kelly taking her daughters to get back to school supplies yet – she really needs to get her act together!

  35. Adgirl says:

    When did Jill and KooKoo spend the weekend together in the Hamptons? Was that 4th of July?
    I think they were scared sh1tless of being fired and decided to change their tack on their twitterings to be more “positive” and “turn negatives into positives”. There’s thin line between Love and Hate! We’re gonna have fun! DID YOU HEAR ME – THIS IS FUN DAMNIT. Hence the edited RTs.

    It sounds so Kelly PR 5150.

    • Sara says:

      It’s all part of their mania…

    • Viewer 5 says:

      I know. At this point, not even Liz Rosenberg (Madonna’s publicist) could pull them out of this mess; and that woman is a genius. Not that they’d listen to her, even if they could afford her.

    • KerryOkie says:

      Making lemons out of lemonade.

    • FLG says:

      I wonder if Kelly and LuAnn would team up with Kim G. for that new show? Kim G. would be a fine substitute for Jillzy, since Jillzy doesn’t meet the qualifications. I wouldn’t watch it, but it would be fun to snark about. I wonder if Kim G. could knock LuAnn off her high horse? LuAnn might actually appear humble compared to Kim G. Kelly would appear positively sane compared to Kim G. I think it would be a win/win for both Kelly and LuAnn. LuAnn’s book has been out for years now. I wonder how many people are going to show up in Chicago for a book signing for a book that was released several years ago? I did read that correctly, didn’t I? That it was a book signing and would be held in the tower area? Hubs and I spent some time in that part of Chicago a few years back and LOVED it.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      “so Kelly PR 5150″

      HA! Excellent and apt, Adgirl! LOL. Another classic is born: “Oh that’s so Kelly PR 5150.” lololol

    • EcruFuchsiaIndigo says:

      Wow! You are even clocking their vacations? That’s creepy and scary. I hope none of you are convicted of celebrity stalking.

      • T-REX says:

        Really, really you legally-challenged fool are you that ignorant? Uhm, since Jzilla and KKBgummybears post ad nauseum there every move on twitter, because they seem to have “diarhhea of the twitter”, it’s just re-posting.

      • Need a Hobby says:

        These “fauxlebrities” continuously spam social media venues talking about themselves, where they are, what they’re doing; furthermore, they beg people to follow them on Twitter, Facebook, their websites, and to interact with them in these venues.

        Then when people do precisely what these ninnies ask for, these nuthatch boobies complain they’re being “stalked.”

        Actually, I look forward to the day when private citizens pursue stalking, defamation and harassment charges against these public figures.

  36. JumpTheShark says:

    So Chickee, are you telling us that Jill’s girdle might smell like Fritos? Ick.
    I doubt that the “Countess” will sing on a Holiday album (although those songs have been butchered many times before). But perhaps her BFF JZ will let her sing a product jingle for those girdles.
    So, Duchess and friends, can you write a jingle to the tune of “Money Can’t Buy You Class”? Hint: “ride up your ass”, “rashes that burn, my friend” etc…

  37. FLG says:

    Something along the lines of “Money Can’t Buy You Class, but Jillzy’s Girdles Can Skwish Your Ass???

  38. FLG says:

    I don’t know much about women’s underwear, but do control top panties mean they come with a muzzle?

    • justanothermary says:

      Yes, absolutely FLG and, as members in good standing of the JZ “fan” club. It is up to each and every one of us to purchase a pair and send them off to JZ ASAP. If anyone ever need a muzzle. . .

      • justanothermary says:

        On second thought – I’m sure JZ has more panties then she knows what to do with and her storage unit is already full of books, so let’s just send muzzles.

        • FLG says:

          Sounds like a good idea. I know how expensive storage in NYC can be. I’d hate for Bawby to have to buy her a smaller diamond next year.

          • T-REX says:

            Well, if everything goes as planned in December at the Bankruptcy hearing and the criminals indicted, the Juicy residence might be available in Jersey and Bawby can rent that out for all his wife’s failed business ventures

  39. Pghemtchick says:

    I wonder how Jill reacted in Season one when Ally said, “Honestly, I want Ginger to die” in the episode titled “Careful, she bites”. Maybe that’s why Jill had such hostility in later seasons toward her daughter. Just a thought since I’m catching up on my Dvr stuffs.

  40. Midwesthousewife says:

    Alright, I’ve had it! I have not been feeding the troll but it is getting on my last nerve. Could you at least be a little creative? I really do appreciate getting slammed when it is phrased in such a way I don’t see it coming. I understand it is difficult (my snark compared to most on here is nothing but at least I try). But until you can compete with the big dogs, get out da way!

    Now for my important PSA: It is illegal to stalk ANYBODY (not just celebs). And, by the way, who is the celeb that you refer to? If simply logging into a blog and venting is, by your definition, stalking then I FIND YOU GUILTY!

    Now back to regularly scheduled snarking.

    • justanothermary says:

      It kinda makes me sad. I miss the fumga troll – now THAT was fun.

    • Viewer 5 says:

      She can’t help it. When one has an IQ of 86, comprehension of law is definitely not one’s forte.

    • Viewer 5 says:

      Question: Does Lynn ever tell the region of where the IP comes from?

      • justanothermary says:

        Hmmmm – my comment did not post.

        She has in the past.

        • Viewer 5 says:

          I wish three colors could wave her unsharpened, dull-witted crayon (shoutout to FLG) and recolor my quilt. Mauve depresses me. :(

      • Nancy says:

        V5,
        Hi there. Thanks for your post yesterday.
        How many ff’s do you have?

        • Viewer 5 says:

          Hi Darling!
          Pardon… what’s FF?

        • Sachi's Mom says:

          Hi Nancy-that was me-Sachi is my Shiba, and Smokey is the cat I accidentally adopted last Hollow’een. Just the 3 of us!

          • Sachi's Mom says:

            oops sorry-new to posting-this was in response to Nancy and the FF’s-Furry Friends.

          • Viewer 5 says:

            Kittty!
            Is Smoky a tuxedo grey?
            *waits for answer, hopes for affirmation*

            • Sachi's Mom says:

              alas, non~he is a Russian Blue-but I luv him all the same! WOw-2 at once must be a riot!

              • Viewer 5 says:

                Noes! RB’s are the BEST. I had a pal who swears, to this day, that her RB was the love of her life. And she never lets her hubby forget it, either. And the kitty died ten years ago.

              • Nancy says:

                Sachi’s Mom & V5,
                So sorry for the mix up. I had to go back and read the posts from last night. It is great to meet both of you! We had a Russian blue while I was growing up. His name was Martini. We also had a dog named Shari. Needless to say I ended up in AA
                Not everyone thinks it’s funny but I sure do.

                • Viewer 5 says:

                  sometimes my kitties make me want to drink again. heh.

                  • Nancy says:

                    V5,
                    We now have 2 feral siamese cats.
                    They are 3 yrs old now and they have finally bonded with me. It took a lot of work and it isn’t over. Everyday I have to work with them.
                    So are you a friend of Bill W’s?

                    • Viewer 5 says:

                      Yes, pal o’Bill. Wasn’t sure ff was something to do w/that.

                      Siamese can be difficult; let alone when feral!

                      Oops. Out of room…

    • EcruFuchsiaIndigo says:

      I am glad you are paying attention. That is a rarity here on the hate blog.

    • Viewer 5 says:

      That’s nice.
      Wish I weren’t so jaded right now.

    • Need a Hobby says:

      Oh please, Bravo is as craven and crass as always. They just want to be seen to be appearing to do ‘the right thing’ so they can get on with their three ring goat rodeo.

      So PSA’s. Better than a Bravo suicide hotline marathon where folks can call and chat with Bravolebrities. That’s the sort of horror I was anticipating some Bravo VP would come up with.

  41. Butters'Mom says:

    To the color coded crazy:
    Be gone before someone drops a house on you!

    • Viewer 5 says:

      Ooooo. Your quilt looks really bright red with a lit-tle bit of orange on my screen. It’s so pretty! I don’t like my mauve, and I’m feeling a little pouty about it today. ;)

      • Sara says:

        Your mauve looks like lilac on my screen – I like it.

        Mine looks like Army Green – not in love w/it, but I don’t want to mess w/it.

    • Midwesthousewife says:

      I am so sorry that I couldn’t contain myself – I knew I would regret responding and I still did it. Who knew color clash actually reads all the comments? And I don’t even feel satisfied! I apologize to my whole IHJZ family for leaving troll crumbs around.

      I hate JZ and Krazy! (OK, I feel a little better).

      • EcruFuchsiaIndigo says:

        Thank you so much! Hopefully you will see the light and get a hobby other than a hate blog.

      • justanothermary says:

        Don’t be sorry. It gets to all of us now and then. Stupid can be very annoying.

      • Sara says:

        Well, you know MidWest, it’s not really about the occasional critters that scurry through here, it’s about the camaraderie that happens despite them. Post on!

  42. justanothermary says:

    Ohhhhh – just got good news! I close on my farm on 9/9/11 (barring any unforeseen complications, of which there were be none). I’m sooooo excited I almost crapped my sqweez panties. Oh wait, I don’t own any, and they’re already crap. Anyway, I’ll be moving soon!

    • Midwesthousewife says:

      Congrats!!

    • Viewer 5 says:

      Yay! Catch me up – will you have livestock or stuff to eat and things? Pardon – I am a coastal chick, and dumb about such things.

      • justanothermary says:

        It’s just an 8 acre plot with a barn and silos and such. I will have a couple beef and a couple hogs. The HUGE garden and fruit grove are going to be great. The house is small and nice with a really nice kitchen. The best thing is the house is too small for any of the kids to move in!

        • Viewer 5 says:

          It sounds lovely. (8) acres is wonderful. I’m really, really thrilled for you, and envious. Can’t wait to hear updates.

          Growing your own is beyond wonderful. There’s so much cancer-causing garbage out there these days!

          I have recently learned to keep plants on my balcony. I live near the sea, and the air kills them. I seem to be one of the few in my building who have plants, and I’m really, really proud of it. *puffs chest out*

          • justanothermary says:

            I have some really horrible allergies so it’s just better for me to grow my own food. Also, I do a lot of canning and make jellies and jams. I really enjoy it.

            • Viewer 5 says:

              My dream is to live part-time in upstate New York. (*dream*dream*dream) – so I am very envious, but happy for you.

              Plus, many who have allergies don’t take the effort to take care of themselves. It’s always a hard choice: meds – or taking the time and effort to grow things and eat well? I admire your fortitude.

              Don’t let the kidz make a guesthouse out of the silo…

        • Midwesthousewife says:

          Sounds like a little piece of heaven to me!

        • AZGirl says:

          I want to live with you….not only has it been 111 degrees every day for the past 2 weeks I have not had a good tomato in 35 years. The tomato’s they sell here are like rocks with no taste. I remember the midwest tomato’s and eating them like fruit.
          Yes JustanotherMary you plant that garden next spring and I will there to get some great produce.

        • emt2 says:

          congratulations! it’s my secret wish to own a farm one day! good for you.

    • T-REX says:

      Congratulations!

    • Mookies1mom says:

      Congratulations!

    • FLG says:

      Congratulations! I hope you love your new home. If it is between Florida and NYC, be careful since I chased LuAnn away with my broom, she left in quite a huff!

    • Dame Rhetorica says:

      Good to hear such good news from you Mary! I know you’ve had a hard time.

    • Trudie says:

      Fabulous news!

    • Sara says:

      How fun – I missing growing my own vegetables. Congrats to you, JAM!

    • MazelnIndy says:

      Congrats Mary. Not a full-time farm type girl….but do like to visit, hint, hint.

      • vilzvet says:

        Congrats Mary! Sounds like a dream! “Only 8 acres” oh you kid! In my neck of the woods if you have 1 acre it’s considered huge. What state will you be in?

        • justanothermary says:

          It’s in MN and any member of the IHJZ family is always welcome. We can try Skinny Girl margaritas, I haven’t tried it yet.

  43. EcruBlueIndigo says:

    Have you ever wondered why WallStreetLady doesn’t post here on the hate blog anymore?

    • Sam says:

      How do you know she doesn’t?

      (How many times have YOU changed your posting name?)

      Really, I can’t believe just how stupid you are. I’m actually starting to find you funny rather than annoying!

      • Nancy says:

        I agree. It’s like playing with a 3 year old.

        • happygal says:

          it’s like playing with that Parrot they had on Yahoo- chased a laser red dot and could figure out it wasn’t real… You really are quite dense….

    • T-REX says:

      Guess we know now that you are the “real” stalker! Hope WSL reads all your inquiries on her whereabouts, gets with Lynn for your IP and has you given a “protective order”!

    • OneMoreInBoston says:

      Nope, no wondering- I know exactly why and so do you.

    • TLM says:

      Are you holding her hostage?

    • LynnNChicago says:

      No, never wondered it once because I KNOW why :)

      What is your point my colorful obsessed crazy person? I appreciate the hits, don’t get me wrong but you really should find something more constructive to do with your time. This place clearly agitates you. Unless of course you’re getting paid to post here, in which case your employer is psychotic and you should find other employment

  44. NightLight95 says:

    I suppose if someone disliked my behavior so much and created a blog detailing all of my faults would disturb me too. Would I ignore it and therefore not give it credence or would I, like other cast members, request a session to explain my side of the “story”? I don’t know because nobody has created a blog on my comings and goings but I would definitely not indulge in childish behavior and then claim to be nice. I suppose it all depends on what you value most: money, pets, business or maybe family (eek!). I imagine most of these Bravo people do think they love their family and that’s why they are doing it, you know getting a paycheck, but then so does a prostitute with a heart-of-gold. So to all you people who are disheartened that not everyone likes you, put on a big smile when you go to the bank–even if you sold out your family and your soul. Cha-ching! Now go out there and be catty, petty and most of all a sellout because ratings are truly what matter in your world.

  45. JillhAter says:

    I hate JZ for all the despicable things she has done to working folk in NYC.
    JZ is a disgusting human and needs to realize she can’t bully people anymore!
    Return anymore used underwear lately???.CNUT!

    Hiya everyone :)

  46. Dame Rhetorica says:

    This address was posted above for Shape magazine. There’s also a sample letter upthread. Here’s mine. Email if you’re interested. Next we email about Jill’s re-tweeting!
    SHPcustserv@cdsfulfillment.com

    It is shameful that a magazine supposedly committed to fitness would be so blatantly deceptive. If you are going to reward women who are in Shape, please be honest about the photo editing. I will not read your magazine again.

    Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

    • FLG says:

      Great letter Dame Rhetorica. With so much photoshopping going on, it’s no wonder that young people suffer from eating disorders.

    • Nancy says:

      Dame,
      I wish people would do that to my photos! ha ha
      I’m going to send a letter out to Shape Mag this afternoon.
      How can Kelly walk around NY with her head up high pretending
      all this “stuff” isn’t happening? I would be mortified.

      P.S. How is your back?

      • Dame Rhetorica says:

        Hey sweetie, I may have missed you. If so I’ll catch you tonite. I’m back to my baseline so that’s good. I guess the steroids helped! How you doing? I know all this Richard is tough on you.

        • FLG says:

          I hope the steroids have helped you. I’ve had a pretty good day today. I’m always happy when I get a good day. They’re rare, so I do appreciate them!

  47. justanothermary says:

    I’m gonna have to log off for a while cuz if “Color Me Stupid” doesn’t STFU about WSL there’s gonna be Troll bits all over the place.

    Have a great evening all!

    • Nancy says:

      Mary,
      Before you go, have you seen the reality show called
      “The Fabulous Beekman (sp?) Boys”?

    • Viewer 5 says:

      *smooches*
      and congratulations again.
      xo
      V5

      • Nancy says:

        V5,
        My extended family has bred siamese cats for years. I’ve always had one and I agree that some of them can be difficult. Mine have been great up until now. We did not know they were feral but I was already in love with them so there was no going back.
        One of them sleeps right next to me and stays with me if I’m on the couch but won’t let me pick her up if we are outside. Strange. The other one is just the opposite. I must say that they are the most beautiful cats I’ve ever seen. One is a blue point and the other is a seal point. They include our pug in their pack. It is a very spiritual thing to watch as they know she is 17 now and needs help seeing and hearing.

        Do you grow your own vegetables?

        • Viewer 5 says:

          Hi there,
          I know you commune well with animals, and I’m glad the siamese found their way to your home. Yay! I love kitties – the little murderers. (Mine eat dragonflies.)

          I have not grown my own veggies – I admire people who do, and can. It’s not an easy thing! I have plants on my balcony, and being a city person of sorts, this is a big deal for me. :D

          • Nancy says:

            V5,
            I don’t think they mean to murder their little friends. Well maybe the birds but not the lizards or little mice because they could in a split second but they don’t. They bring them into me as a present. I’d rather play a different game but…
            When Emily (our pug) was a puppy I brought her to all my AA meetings. She was known as the AA dog of San Francisco. :)

            • Viewer 5 says:

              Oh, the boo-boo. ((((Emily))))

              My girls see anything fly, and *poof* – they’re off. One of them got a bird once, and it almost killed me. Sobbed for hours.
              :(

              Hey – there is a little festival/gathering in Washington Square Park in nyc every year… Pugstock!!! Pug people rule.

              • Nancy says:

                We have a pug picnic in San Fran
                the first Sunday of every month.
                It is hilarious! 50+ pugs all running around smashing into each other etc. They are very popular after the movie “The Men In Black” came out. In the movie the pug saves the world. Or something like that. They are great dogs if you can put up with their shedding as it’s 24/7
                12 months a year. They are funny and loving and are very grateful. We take her everywhere with us. She’s been to 3rd world countries and the
                Hollywood Bowl. This is the first trip she hasn’t gone on. I didn’t think she was going to enjoy herself so I decided to stay home with her.

    • AZGirl says:

      HAHAHAHAHA!!! Troll Bits..JustanotherMary is HOT today!

  48. TLM says:

    For those wishing to look into Zarin’s Twittergate, here are the Twitter Rules: https://support.twitter.com/groups/33-report-a-violation/topics/121-guidelines-best-practices/articles/18311-the-twitter-rules

    Note these specifics:

    Serial Accounts: You may not create serial accounts for disruptive or abusive purposes, or with overlapping use cases. Mass account creation may result in suspension of all related accounts. Please note that any violation of the Twitter Rules is cause for permanent suspension of all accounts.
    ***************
    You may also be suspended “If a large number of people are blocking you”.
    ***************
    I suppose this becomes a “battle of the blocks,” and I for one will be blocking the numerous Zarin overlapping accounts that have been created. No desire to see what she, her dog, her husband, maid, assistant, hairdresser, or what any other Zarin-related account is posting.

  49. OneMoreInBoston says:

    Cute joke:

    Whatever you give a woman, she’s going to multiply:
    *If you give her sperm, she’ll give you a baby
    *If you give her a house, she’ll give you a home
    *If you give her groceries, she’ll give you a meal
    *If you give her a smile, she’ll give you her heart

    She multiplies and enlarges what is given to her – so it only stands to reason:

    If you give her any crap, you will receive a ton of shit

    BWAH HA HA HA!!!

    • Nancy says:

      OMIB,
      Are you married?

      • Mookies1mom says:

        Hey Nancy, I responded to you the other night but it was late and I don’t know if you saw it or not. How’s it going?

        • Nancy says:

          Hi Mookies1mom,
          I’m lonely. My husband is in Dallas to hear a young soprano singer. I had to stay at home to look after my dog. I didn’t think I was going to miss him but I really do.
          We just have a lot of fun together. He will be home soon.
          It sort of freaked me out last night sleeping alone in this big house so I’ll be glad to see his face again.
          How are you doing?

          • Mookies1mom says:

            Awww. Of course you miss George. How is Emily? When Mookie’s dad goes out of town it really screws with my sleep schedule and part of that has to do with the fact that I’m alone in the house. He will be back before you know it! I’m doing well. I wrote up thread that I got the go ahead to have my permanent tooth placed. (Didn’t you have an implant done? If so, what can I expect?) But I think they are going to have to remove some of the gum that grew up around it. That should be fun! My in-laws are coming for a visit in Sept. so I’m very happy about that! That’s about all I’ve got for now.

            • Nancy says:

              The same thing happened to me. Don’t worry it didn’t hurt. Let me know how you did.
              How old is Mookie now? Did he walk around your house looking for his “human”? Emily is and it’s sad to see.
              George will be home tomorrow.
              Do your parent-in-law live very far from you? I wish I had met George’s parents but they died before I met him.
              He has no siblings either. Sort of sad.

              • Mookies1mom says:

                I have an appointment for the 8th but the receptionist seemed confused about well everything! So we’ll see what happens with that. Mookie is almost 5 years old. He looks for his dad when he is not here just like your Emily, even though Emily is a pug and Mookie is a cat. I’m so sorry you didn’t get to meet George’s parents. What is left of both of our families are scattered from the north (us) to the south (the in-laws and brothers). We haven’t seen his parent’s in almost 2 years. (Mine passed away almost 15 years ago.) They live about 1,200 miles away. Plus, we both have pets that don’t do well when left alone. But they were planning a trip up north to see some sites and swing by to see us.

                • Nancy says:

                  Mookies1mom,
                  It is harder to travel when you get older I think. It’s great that you are going to see your husbands family.
                  I’m sorry that you no longer have your parents.
                  I don’t know why I thought Mookie is a dog.
                  I feel horrible about that.
                  I wish this blog would post pictures of all our animals. Please tell him how sorry I am. My cats would scratch my eyes out if I ever called them dogs!

                  • Mookies1mom says:

                    Losing both parents before I was 30 was tough. Neither of them had an easy death either. This was part of my reasoning from what we were discussing the other day. They also passed about 2 1/2 years apart. Kind messed with my head for a while and even though I miss them I’ve done my grieving. (Sometimes holidays and other events bring it back up.)

                    Well, Mookie is 23 pounds so he may outweigh your Emily. He kind of acts like a dog but he refuses to play catch! :) He is just happy go lucky, not a care in the world. I’ve never even heard him hiss. He won’t care that you thought he was a dog but I’ll pass on your apology anyway. He’ll probably want you to pet him for a minute and all will be forgiven.

          • FLG says:

            I hope you enjoy his homecoming even more than you feel his absence! I hope he has a safe trip home and gives you a warm and loving greeting!

            • Mookies1mom says:

              Hey FLG! How is your traveling going? Looks like your VirginMiFi didn’t let you, or us, down! Hope things are going well.

              • FLG says:

                The MiFi thingy is working well, I am happy to report! I’m having a nice trip so far. I’m sure the time will go too quickly although it will be good to be back in the new place, too!

                • Mookies1mom says:

                  I’m glad everyone seemed to be settled in! I hope your hubs is enjoying his new job and that Mr. Tigre is enjoying his new home!

                  • FLG says:

                    I was really surprised at how well Mr. Tigre took to the new place. Hubs and I have moved a few times over the years and Mr. Tigre always disappeared inside for several days before. He didn’t this time. We showed him where his litter box is located, where his cat chow was and he was good to go. I worry about him as he’s getting up there in age. He’s about 18 now.

                    • FLG says:

                      I tell him he doesn’t look a day over ten!

                    • Mookies1mom says:

                      Mookie is a pretty decent mover but not his sister. She is about 10 and gives you that look ~ like I’ll cut you before you get me in that carrier!

            • Nancy says:

              Thank-you FLG.
              Glad to have you back. It’s not the same blog without you. How does your partner like his new job? How is your back?

              • FLG says:

                I think he likes it and I think it is a really good fit for him. I’m out of town right now, but my back is good today. The drive was tough on my back and it takes a few days to recover. I’m hoping it will be even better tomorrow. I am enjoying time with my family. I don’t have much family left in the USA and we do enjoy it when we can get together.

                • Mookies1mom says:

                  I hope you have a wonderful time with your family and that your back feels wonderful during the remainder of your trip!

                  • FLG says:

                    Thank you so much. I hope your dental work goes smooth and easy!

                    • Mookies1mom says:

                      Thank you! As long as they give me enough sedatives I’ll be fine. I panic anytime I get near the chair at the dentist office. IDK why. I usually am a pretty reasonable person.

              • FLG says:

                I’m blushing :oops:

    • Mookies1mom says:

      Nice! ;)

    • Viewer 5 says:

      I really like that.

    • Embla says:

      So true…

  50. Adgirl says:

    Sonja’s coming to San Francisco next week!!!

    Macy’s Union Square Fashion’s Night Out celebration includes Sonja Morgan
    Sonja Morgan from Real Housewives of New York City will be on hand at Fashion’s Night Out at Macy’s Union Square on September 8, 2011. This well-loved housewife will be at Macy’s Union Square at 7pm in the Cellar to demonstrate how to cook gourmet meals in a toaster oven followed by a meet and greet where she will also sign autographs in the American Designer Collections department on level 2.

    http://blog.bayareafashionista.com/2011/08/31/macys-union-square-fashions-night-out-celebration-includes-sonja-morgan.aspx

    • sony4ou says:

      That sounds cool..are you going?? No one ever comes to Okla, so I live vicariously through others!!

      • Adgirl says:

        I don’t know yet. 7 pm is a tough one. By the time I return home it will be 9-ish.

        But I do adore Sonja.

    • FLG says:

      I would love to attend that! I really like Sonja and wish her well through her tough times.

  51. Embla says:

    What´s with the no blog situation from the RHNJ ? It´s irritating. It can´t be that much of a job to write a blog even if they are in LA.
    Do your job girls it should not be that difficult.

  52. OneMoreInBoston says:

    oh my gawd I’m bawling my f@cking eyes out but they’re *good* tears

    Nancy? this one is for you:

    http://www.dogwork.com/relp8/#

  53. Adgirl says:

    Waaay off topic (are there topics anymore?).

    I found this odd little article concerning the opinions of Nazi secretaries about their bosses. There is one about Churchill too.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/08/30/goebbels-secretary-brunhilde-pomsel-secrets-of-nazi-secretaries.html

    • Nancy says:

      Makes you shake your head doesn’t it.
      I thought it as funny when they lit up a cig
      right after he killed himself.

      • Adgirl says:

        I thought it was interesting that the author sought out all of the secretaries to get a mudane look at these guys.
        The cig part was funny! They probably took a couple of big shots of Jägermeister too. Strange that he was such a health nut.

        • Nancy says:

          What cowards they were to take their own lives only because they knew what they did was so wrong.

          • Called A Princess... says:

            The same ilk still walk the halls of power to this day. More good women need to be in the power seat… IMO!!!

  54. T-Rex says:

    Testing since posts I have made aren’t showing

  55. T-Rex says:

    Since Jzilla purports herself an expert on Shapewear/Hosiery, here is my 2 cents:
    Okay, I am T-rex, I too am well versed in the Hosiery business! Been wearing tights since I was a toddler(my mom has pics), see in the business early. I have been wearing big girl panties since I was in Kindergarten and been wearing shapewear since it came out! I know what women want because I was once a size 20 and now a size 8 so I have been a lot of sizes in between, so can offer my opinion on what shapers work at certain sizes. I have worked in clothing stores, in addition I was in the marketing industry for 20 years! Whew, maybe I need to move from my career now into shapewear since based on the Jzilla model I am uber-qualified to create a shapewear line, since I want to clobber a market that is completely saturated and been around for years, without an original idea!

    • happygal says:

      First terrific- where can I sign up on our shapewear nesletter, miss expert :)
      Second – Woo Hoo on the change of size- really impressive and as one who is always battling- really a sincere – way to go-

  56. T-Rex says:

    FLG, are you close to the Hillsborough area? Would love do to lunch if you are in the area?

    • FLG says:

      I’m close to Sebring. Doesn’t get much more central Florida than that! I do plan to go the the Hillsboro area some once I get back. I have friends in Tampa and St. Pete. One lives on Harbor Island, down by the port of Tampa. I’d love to get together sometime! I also go to Naples quite a bit. That is my unwind spot. I can always manage to relax in Naples.

      • T-Rex says:

        Babe you and I need to do a lunch or dinner if you are over here!

        • FLG says:

          I’d love to do that. I’m going to grab a bite to eat with my cousin. Will check back in with everyone later!

          • Duchess of Dryer Lint says:

            I love Sebring. My dad lived there for the last 10 years of his life, and as I helped care for him, my little Toyota can find it’s way there without me! Have you been to the restaurant with the Alligator yet? Ticked me off to no end. Also the gator farm south on 27 is a little family owned business that rescues gators and you get to see them up close.

            • FLG says:

              I’ve seen both, but haven’t been to either yet. I think the gator farm is called Gatorama or something like that. I hope to do more exploring of the area when I get back. Hubs and I had most of the unpacking done when I left to come up here. About the only thing left to do was to hang the art work on the walls. Hubs has a better eye for that than I do, so hopefully that will be finished when I get back. Other than that, we’re fully moved in. I’ve already prepared meals in the kitchen and even used the barbque grill outside. I miss Hubs, but I really miss Mr. Tigre right now. He always knows when my back is bothering me and stays close and purrs for me. Mr. Tigre is a wonderful furry friend.

  57. TLM says:

    I love Kim in the photo above of RHOBH. She rocks the Chanel or Chanel-esque suit!!! I think it doesn’t look at all dull or school marmish, but very chic.

    I honestly think the rest are such poor dressers. I’m sure what they’re wearing isn’t cheap, but to me it kinda looks it. Love Kyle but enough with the giant blousy tops and triple-platform shoes. Kyle has a great figure, and yet she keeps buying these blouses that could double as sails . I think Adrienne’s taste is hideous. Lisa looks like she’s wearing a negligee, and I don’t understand Taylor with the dominatrix shoes all the time. The best thing I can say about Camille’s dress is that her cleavage isn’t hanging out and she’s appropriately covered, but to me the color is yuck-o.

  58. Sara says:

    This has not a lot to do w/the conversations today – but, I’m watching the lastest episode of RHONJ for the nth time, and they showed the Manzo boys in the office at Grandma’s house in the country and Chris was brainstorming about “toilet books,” and behind his head on the bulletin board is a girly picture. What’s up w/that?

  59. Mookies1mom says:

    BBL. I’ve got to go cook for Mookie’s dad. I’m afraid to leave him in the kitchen by himself!

  60. JumpTheShark says:

    I agree with TLM, Kim looks great. She seems the most “real”. It was cute last season when she had her makeup done to look like the other ladies, but she needn’t have bothered because they look like transvestites with the heavy make-up.
    Kim may be fragile, but when you are verbally and physically abused by a sister (who is supposed to love you) it shatters your confidence and trust in people. I speak from experience.

  61. OneMoreInBoston says:

    I think I found my newest crush! I LURVE this guy-

  62. Dame Rhetorica says:

    OK. I’m here. Whadimiss?

    • Nancy says:

      Hi Dame.
      What did you miss? We found out today that our coloured troll is
      breaking the law. It’s unthread and worth the read. She brought up
      WSL and needless to say it didn’t go over well. I have a feeling Jill is
      behind all of that. What a coward she is.
      How are you doing? Anything interesting going on ?

      • Dame Rhetorica says:

        Hey Nancy, I did read hrr mention o WSL; how stoopid! Some really good posts today. You surviving without George?

        • Nancy says:

          Dame,
          Yes. It is lonely thought. I didn’t realize how much “we” are “one.” But not in a icky way. We just enjoy each other’s company. Emily seems out of sorts though as
          she keeps looking for him.
          I hope your back is better.

          • Dame Rhetorica says:

            That’s how my hubs & I are. Isn’t it nice that we still like each other? He has been sooo good since my surgery. He does everything; even paints my toenails. My back is back to the baseline so the steroids helped! How you doing. I’m sure memories are floatin freely with all the Russell stuff. You ok?

    • Dame Rhetorica says:

      Now I’m askeered. Where’d everybody go? Its echoing in here!

      • FLG says:

        Dame, I’m glad you’re back to baseline but I’m sending thoughts and wishes for you to feel even better. I’m glad your hubs is supportive and helpful. We are both lucky that way.

        • Mookies1mom says:

          Count me in on that! That your back feels better than baseline and the supportive hubby. A supportive hubby makes a world of difference!

  63. Puppyluv says:

    Hi Everyone. You don’t know me; but I feel like I know all of you since I’ve been lurking for a long time. Because most of you are friendly, perceptive and knowledgable animal lovers, I thought you may not mind my asking for your thoughts about my current cat issue. As background, I’ve had dogs and cats living happily together my entire adult life – and I’m in my sixties. Most of the time I’ve had several of each. I am currently down to one 8 year old dog. The problem is my daughter’s 1year old cat who stays with us on a regular basis and may be living with us permanently. My dog, a big baby of a Doberman, was raised with cats. (I have adorable pictures of him sharing his dinner and bed with his kitty friends) I really am attempting to be as brief as possible. :) The problem is the cat. He hisses and spits at the dog and me for no reason. The first time I petted him, he bit me. It feels strange writing “the dog” – his name is Dave – that’s another story. Anyway, Dave and I are confused. I have always had a very close connection with animals. Sometimes I think this cat is just crazy. Our home is calm and quiet. We give him no reason to be upset. Dave avoids him and I speak sweetly to him. I just don’t know what to do. Any help is greatly appreciated.

    • Nancy says:

      Puppylov,
      First of all welcome to our family.
      If I were you I would call my SPCA and ask to talk to their animal behaviorist
      and tell him/her your problem. We’ve always had dogs and cats living together without issue so I feel badly for you. I think the cat is scared because he’s not
      in his own domain. How much time has passed? Maybe this will boil over.
      The internet is another idea. I’m sure you can find some answers there. I’ll try to look myself and will post again if I find something. Again I would call the SPCA first and ask to speak to the behaviorist.

      • Puppyluv says:

        Nancy, thanks for answering. The domain thing is a bit strange. I am living in my daughter’s house – the cat’s house. My daughter is living with her boyfriend in the next town. Another long story. Anyway, we have been here for almost a year with the cat here nearly half that time. I thought he would mellow out a long time ago. I did everything I could to respect his terratory and Dave is so sensitive that he goes along with everything I do. I didn’t think of calling the ASPCA – good idea.

        • Nancy says:

          Maybe he should spend 100% of his time with you and Dave. It might be messing with his head to have two homes.

    • Dame Rhetorica says:

      Hi puppyluv, my first question was answered. Female cats take longer to warm up to others. But since you’ve got a he, was he socialized as a kitty? With other people, pets? It may jusy take awhile. We had an older female we rescused and she was mean as h#ll. She finally allowed us to stay but really took up to our daughter. Let us know how they’re doing.

      • Puppyluv says:

        I doubt that he was socialized. This is the first pet my daughter has ever had (sometimes I think she was switched at birth :) She found him in a mall parking lot. I was amazed that she brought him home. I love her, of course, but we have nothing in common.

    • Gingerthenoseminer says:

      Hi Puppy I also have a doberman. :) Aren’t they just great dogs?
      As for the cat all I can tell you is we had the same problem. When my dad died we took his animals and his cat did the same thing for about 6months but finally figured out that we loved him and ment him no harm. Now all he wants to do is sleep on everyones head including the dog. I think it just takes a ton of patience and he will come around.

      • Nancy says:

        What a sweet story with a great ending! :)

      • Puppyluv says:

        Absolutely – Dobermans are the best! I’ve had them for more than 30 years. Along with various other dogs that decided to live with us. They are gentle with children and cats and anyone else who needs to be delt with gently but protective when called for. If I wasn’t such a chatterbox, I would never have to speak to them at all since they read your mind and are so easy to train I feel guilty taking credit for how well behaved they are.

        • Gingerthenoseminer says:

          I have had alot of great dogs in my life but my Mojo has brought me to the point that I will never be without a doberman ever again. My boy is just a big baby too and takes the Velcro Dobe to a whole new level. I am never without him wherever I go.

    • Tammi says:

      puppylov, I too am a long time lurker, commenting now and then. That cat will never change, as cats deal in the higher heirachy. And the female cats are the most dominate. I always say, that you love cats or don’t…there is no middle.

      • Nancy says:

        Don’t take away her hope. Not all cats are the same.

      • Puppyluv says:

        To be completely honest, I am a dog lover first. I have, however, loved a lot of kitties. I guess I have been lucky to have never had an animal be such a problem before. But I intend to keep working on it. There has to be a reason for this cat’s behavior. He deserves the best I can do.

    • Adgirl says:

      @Puppyluv
      It’s funny, but some cats are very very emotional! I had a similar problem.
      We had to introduce a cat into a house where our friendly 85 lb bulldog had been the only pet. The kitty was sometimes very friendly to me and other times extremely hostile. She peed twice on the dog’s bed which meant to me that she felt left out and jealous!
      I decided to make a point to greet the cat first when I came into the room. I did other things that showed her (especially, in front of the dog!) that she came first – for example I’d feed her before the dog. The dog was a little confused but she still got her treats and her outings so everyone adjusted quickly.
      That worked super fast – just a few days and everyone calmed down.

      • Puppyluv says:

        Adgirl, That is interesting. The same thing happened here – the cat used one of the dog beds for a litter box. I have always fed Dave first. I didn’t want to hurt his feelings. I will try feeding cat first (Dave will understand) and see if that helps.

        • Adgirl says:

          They get along fine now, really cute. The kitty felt like the unwanted stepchild moved into a home that didn’t want her.

        • Mookies1mom says:

          Adgirl, that is really interesting. I hope that works for you Puppyluv! It make take some time but it will be worth it.

    • Michigan Susan says:

      Have you ever watched the show with the cat whisperer guy? He looks like a rocknroll biker but is AMAZING with cats. I think the show was on Animal Planet. Anyway, he always makes a point about having things high up for the cats to walk around or perch on. It looks like the cats adjusted quickly once they had their perches. I, however, have no experience with cats so I don’t know if this is true. I’ve got 3 rescue dogs: a black retriever mix, a shepherd/spaniel mix, and an American Eskimo/terrier mix. Spoiled rotten and I can’t imagine a day without them!!!

  64. Queen Butter Bean says:

    Speaking of watermelons….

    justanothermary – congrats on the farm – you’re gonna love it. Hope you have a riding mower – we do and love it!

    Nancy/mookiesmom – I know what you mean…when KBB is outta town, I never sleep well…with the critters at school, I’ll be a wreck by the time he gets back…

    On another note…ok…a coupla notes…

    1 – So…if Kelly strikes up a conversation with Lynn about whatever subject, is she by Jill’s definition turning her back on Jill? Is Jill in turn going to lump Kelly in with Alex/Simon? Would Alex/Simon welcome Kelly into their lump??? I dunno…

    2 – I liked Flower Mound’s (sp?) posts about Klout…but I gotta say (perhaps it was said already)…this Klout thing is bullshit…pure and simple…just a way to part an idiot from his money…I looked at the klout of various folks…I mean…Dora the Explorer has klout….*I* don’t…then again…I don’t need klout…I’m famous in my world on 1!…Seriously…Jill has a higher number than other folks….like Rick Perry and Snooki…does that really mean anything? She’s also higher than Brad Pitt…

    If that’s what makes Jill get up in the morning…good for her…but I think that’s a very shallow and vapid way to live…

  65. Tammi says:

    puppylov, I have 10 cats and work at a cat shelter.

  66. Queen Butter Bean says:

    so how do I post a video directly onto the blog?

  67. Nancy says:

    Dance Moms just started. That is one crazy lady!

    • Mookies1mom says:

      Which one?

      • Nancy says:

        Abby & Cathy!

        • Mookies1mom says:

          Those 2 were my first thought but I just wanted to make sure we were on the same page. I haven’t watched tonights episode.

          • Nancy says:

            Mark my words…Maddie is going to be one messed up kid. What was my second clue? I heard her say, “If I can’t dance I am going to kill myself”! Therapy is calling your name Maddie!!

            Why do these mom’s do this to their children?
            Let them be kids!

    • zanne says:

      Nancy, what’s your opinion of skating schools in boarding schools? I’m talking about shattuck/st.mary’s in Fairbough, (sp) Mn. They have a great Hockey team (some when from there to the pro’s). But I don’t know beans about the ice skating.

  68. Adgirl says:

    @ Puppyluv I made a comment above about your kitty drama.

    • Puppyluv says:

      Adgirl, My puter doesn’t load as fast as some here. I get a little lost. Thank you and don’t worry. I love animals and will never give up trying to help them. Actually, I feel a little silly since I have always been the one that people come to for help with their pet problems.

  69. Dame Rhetorica says:

    Now I want cake. Just Desserts is baking. Maybe I’ll switch to tiny dancer:) Sing it Queen!

    • Puppyluv says:

      OK, now I’m really confused. Tiny Dancer is Elton John. Splain please.

      • Dame Rhetorica says:

        Queen Butter Bean likes to sing. See.. you need to post more. Tiny dancer was a reference to Dance Moms. But i stayed with Just Desserts & the cakes. They were really ugly!

        • Puppyluv says:

          Ah, got it. Thanks Dame. I record Just Desserts. Hate commercials! Actually, I record just about everything so I don’t have to watch commercials! I love to sing too though I’m not sure anyone wants to listen :) But Hey, anything musical, (or cooking) I’m in.

          • Nancy says:

            We didn’t want to listen to LuMan try to sing but we didn’t have a choice. YOU would be a very nice welcome. Sing away! We’re all ears!

        • Called A Princess... says:

          Oh yes they were!!!

      • MrWestVirginia says:

        I have a co-worker that thought the song “Tiny Dancer” was actually called Tony Danza. What a maroon!! lol

  70. chismosa says:

    i don’t watch Beverly Hills but Pandora’s husband looks like a real d*bag from that picture, as well as what i’ve read you all say about how he came off on the show. I hope he turns out to be wonderful.

  71. Three Blessed says:

    Have to say … With a 10, 8, and 5 month old.. Love coming here to read the blog, posts, while I have a glass of vino.. Mommy medicine Thx U guys are hysterical!

    • Queen Butter Bean says:

      Wow – You have your hands full!!!! ;-)

      But I miss those days….I’m a new empty-nester…there’s good things about it…like the house stays clean…but then….I don’t get to hear him strumming his guitar everyday….

      …I’d prefer a dirty house…

      • Dame Rhetorica says:

        I’m with you! But they come “home” just about every Sunday, guitars & all:)

      • Three Blessed says:

        We were done with the two “girls” then my surprise son came along… He has three mommas Wonderful and hard to go back.. Wouldn’t trade him for anything.. Any truth that boys love their mommas? I have daddy’s girls

        • Dame Rhetorica says:

          Some truth to that. Boys are very protective. But girls always need their mom too. I will say my boy was easier. Course he didn’t have PMS:)

          • Nancy says:

            I was a BIG daddy’s girl. :)

          • Three Blessed says:

            Think that’s coming with my 10 yr old soon Heaven help me! She already acts like she’s 16 So far so good She’s still asks for my advice and respects me as her mom . Hope this lasts.. Dont want an Asssslee on my hands LOL

    • Dame Rhetorica says:

      Glad to have you Blessed! Now I understand your name. I’m twice blessed!

  72. CitySide says:

    Sounds like a version of Woodstock might be brewing.
    All the elements are there.
    Songs are abrewin’.
    Music is astrummin’
    Desserts are acookin’
    Riding lawn mowers are acuttin’
    Now, where might we find about 8 acres of land….hummmmm

    • Puppyluv says:

      Three (3?) of the best days of my life. Oh, to be young again – uninhibited, free of responsibility, and (most important of all) BRALESS!!!

      • Nancy says:

        I wish I could have been there. Too young.
        I heard it was great. I walk up and down on Haight/Ashbury St almost daily here in San Francisco.

        • Puppyluv says:

          “If you’re going to SanFrancisco, be sure to wear some flowers in your hair”

          • Nancy says:

            That one I remember! San Fran hasn’t changed that much. It’s a great street to visit but we live a little ways from it.

  73. Mookies1mom says:

    Well folks my eyes are going to give out on me. Starting to get blind spots and that’s never good. “See” you all tomorrow! Have a great night!

  74. Dame Rhetorica says:

    Well my pills are kicking in. I better get off before I have a cortex or a Dick dog. Good times. Sweet dreams!

    • Nancy says:

      Dame,
      That was so funny. At least you remembered that the dog was dick and not your husband! Good night. Take a pill on me!

  75. FLG says:

    Me, too. Sweet Dreams to all……

  76. Puppyluv says:

    Wow. You all are just so great! How anyone can call this a hate blog is beyond me. I want to thank you for being so welcoming. I have always been an introvert. It was your kindness that drew me to you. The many answers to my cat problem question is much appreciated. Thank you, Lynn, for your insightful commentary on all things housewives and beyond. We all need a little diversion from our everyday lives; whether it (our lives) be good or not. Oh Yeah, I HATE JILL ZARIN!

  77. Boston02127 says:

    Good morning.

    Happy Birthday Wall Street Lady!!! I hope your day is great! :)

  78. BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

    Good morning~

  79. Baroness Beachcomber says:

    Good morning everyone. I’ve been missing you guys while I’ve been setting up house at the beach. This should be the last really hard work day, then we’ll at least be ready for the fambly coming this weekend. HAPPY BIRTHDAY WSL. I think there is another birthday, but I’m sure the Dame will remind us. See Ya Later!

  80. FlowerPower says:

    Boston, isn’t today your birthday too???? The big one? Can’t make fun of Ashley anymore??

    Happy Birthday, Boston!!!!!!! Hope you have a fantastic day.

    • Boston02127 says:

      TY. Yep, no more making fun of kids. Big 20!

      • FlowerPower says:

        Then I can shout it louder :-D

        HAPPY BIRTHDAY, BOSTON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        You are truly an amazing person and one of the big reasons this blog is such a special place. Thank you for sharing your wit and wisdom (beyond your years!) with all of us. Wishing you (and your brother) all good things. Big hugs from Worcester County.

      • Empress of FOD Farm says:

        Happy Birthday Boston! 20!
        P.S. Ashley will be 21 in Dec., so her shelf life for the off limits thing is quickly expiring….

      • Sally O'Malley aka Queen Butter Bean says:

        Boston – Happy, Happy Birthday!!!!!

        You’re an amazing young woman!!!

      • Baroness Beachcomber says:

        HAPPY BIRTHDAY BOSTON. NOT A TEENAGER ANYMORE.
        I knew it was someone else’s bday, but couldn’t remember who. HAVE A GREAT DAY!

      • BaaBee Loves Kitties says:

        Happy Birthday Boston My Friend~you have made my mornings so much happier. Thank you sweetie~
        Love & Hugs
        Patty & Allan & Kitties! :P

      • Trudie says:

        I cannot believe you are only 20! So much wisdom!

      • FLG says:

        Happy birthday Boston! I hope you have a great day! Oh, to be 20 again…….actually it’s a lot of hard work being twenty. School, work, projects…. Boston, it does and will get easier. Hugs!

      • CdnFillie58 says:

        Happy Birthday to the best 20 yr old poster on this blog .. Hugs and have a great day

  81. KookADoodleDo says:

    Taylor Armstrong ‘Struggling’ With Finances After Suicide Of Husband Russell
    http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/09/taylor-armstrong-financial-troubles-following-russell-suicide

    “Taylor is desperately trying to figure out how she is going to live and support her daughter,” a source tells RadarOnline.com. “She is struggling to make money right now.

    “She had plans to write a book before Russell committed suicide, but now she doesn’t know what she is going to do.”
    ===========================
    What was she going to write a book on??

  82. AZGirl says:

    Good morning everyone! Happy Birthday WSL!